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Violence @ Bohunt - Alex (6th May 2022 - 22:54:05) As many parents will be aware due to the serious nature of the email received from bohunt today there is something insanely wrong with some of the children in that today one child in year 8! Planned an assault on another and by planned, I mean setup other fake fights to distract the teachers to buy this assailant time to do more damage. That damage was an unconscious child requiring medical attention and CPR for an assault that involved kicking to the head! Whilst this occurred many other children watched and recorded it on their phones! Can all of you get a grip of your little ones and find out what is going on at Bohunt for it sounds like a prison hit today with planning and near murderous results!! Can we also step over this “my little jonny idea that butter wouldn’t melt in his mouth” am told there is a lot of violence in that school? BTW this horrific event today… it was year 8 and it was GIRLS !! not boys If you sit back and believe what you child says your participating in failing, we need to get a grip of this before one of our children dies,

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Editor (7th May 2022 - 02:42:08) Message from bohunt today. Dear Parents and Carers, It is with regret and a considerable degree of personal upset that we write to you today. It is our sad duty to inform you of a violent incident between two year 8 pupils earlier this afternoon; this resulted in potentially serious injury to one of the girls. Due to the public nature of this altercation and the fact that individuals within our school community have chosen to record footage on their mobile phones, we ask that parents speak to their children to ensure that this is not shared on social media in order to protect the privacy of those involved and their families. Violent conduct is incredibly rare at Bohunt School and we pride ourselves in the care and respect students and staff display to each other on a daily basis. We are aware, however, that there are a number of incidents taking place outside of school, fuelled by threats and abusive comments posted on social media; this has to stop. We recognise that the pandemic and lockdowns have led to a crisis in young people’s mental health and a breakdown in some aspects of society, such as a sense of community and being kind to others. As a school, we cannot police social media, nor the community beyond the school gates. Neither can we mend all social ills. We can and will, however, continue in our efforts to re-engage all of our young people in their education and focus on the values which make our school such a special place. You will, we are sure. understand that we will not be able to provide further details regarding this particular incident and ask that you trust in our systems and process to resolve this matter accordingly. If any student is upset by this incident, please would you ask them to speak to their Head of House or tutor in the first instance. Please find time this weekend to talk to your children about kindness and caring for others. With our best wishes. Yours faithfully Neil Pittaway & Neil Strowger

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Ex Bohunt parent (7th May 2022 - 08:25:42) So incredibly sad , yet how we react to this terrible event is so important. Please please , don’t let this be the mark of what is usually an amazing school. Whilst my thoughts are with BOTH families who must be in great shock, we need to remember the usual excellence of this school which we are very lucky to have in such a small town. Something has gone greatly wrong here and while it is society and the ability of the phone that can create wonderful and also awful events, perhaps a change needs to be considered. Perhaps an investment in phone safes for every child to leave their phone in during the school day may assist. Yes, this will cost money and also time out of the school day but may be a way forward to let our children be educated in a safe and protected environment. Best wishes for the recovery of the injured pupil and also to the attacker who also I hope receives some help and education that violence is never the answer.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sarah (7th May 2022 - 08:47:39) I am a parent at the school and received this letter today by email. My heart goes out to the girl who was seriously hurt, to her family and to anyone who witnessed it. It it horrific and so very wrong. I hope she makes a full recovery in every way and the person who did it is dealt with effectively. To reply to Alex, the school is not a violent school at all and this is out of the ordinary. My children attend it and have never witnessed anything more than the odd fight between boys once or twice a year, as is seen in most secondary schools across the country. it is a very good school and is large, so every few years there will always be an incident (I do not mean this to sound flippant, it is horrible and serious when that happens). Maybe consider that a good school should not be tarnished by a bad apple. This is surely an extraordinary incident.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Eleanor (7th May 2022 - 09:34:58) Editor, please consider removing all posts relating to this incident. The school have specifically asked for it not to be shared on social media, to protect those involved. Please let's show some respect. The school were specifically talking about the videos taken by other children - not a general discussion. I will ensure no names are mentioned, obviously.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Anon (7th May 2022 - 10:14:43) I am not putting my name to this as 5 years on my child is still suffering. This is not unusual at Bohunt , my child suffered the same being beaten up by a gang of 15 (not hospitalised though) and NOTHING WAS EVER DONE OR SAID. s the other child was in a different tutor group. I have heard of many other instances since and it shows how bad it has got that the poor girl was beaten so seriously I removed my child from the school and enrolled in a different school. So much better . But the mental scars last.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Penny Williamson (7th May 2022 - 12:06:55) I think that while the fight and the injury inflicted on the girl are absolutely appalling, it is the fact that apparently, according to the OP, several children were recording this terrible incident on their phones. I find that absolutely chilling and I would say in answer to Ex Bohunt Parent and Sarah that while this hopefully is an isolated incident and yes Bohunt in the main is a very good school, the fact still remains that it appears several children were involved ie organising fake fights to distract and taking videos on their phones. I feel that this is very worrying indeed and I am sure the school will endeavour to ensure that this never happens again. While it is easy to place all the blame on parents for a child's every misdemeanor, I think in this case there is something seriously wrong with the parenting of these children.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - dave (7th May 2022 - 12:28:39) Just look around, there are clearly a few feral families in the area, some would see their child committing an assault like this as a badge of honour

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Paul (7th May 2022 - 12:35:16) I hope the injured girl makes a full recovery. Horrible for her and her family. It is not true that she needed CPR. As with all things, the rumors are bigger than the event. But she was injured, and badly. Incredibly shameful for the attacker, I hope she is punished. This is extremely rare. Bohunt is a good school. If you think it isn't, you should see what goes on in some of the schools in London.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Penny Williamson (7th May 2022 - 12:55:06) Eleanor This discussion is not about respect or lack of it. It is a discussion about a horrific attack by a young girl on another young girl which took place in a local school. It appears from the Editor's response that the school were anxious that none of the videos of the incident taken by other children were put of social media and I heartily support and agree with that. However we do still have freedom of speech in the UK and a free press, perhaps not 100% free but eons better than countries such as China, North Korea and Russia. Incidents such as this one should be discussed openly, if for no other reason than it will encourage others who have suffered abuse to speak out. To try and cover it up by not putting it in the public domain is to me frightening. It goes without saying that names should not put on this Forum or in public and the Editor has confirmed that he will ensure that this will not happen.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Joe (7th May 2022 - 12:57:57) taking a video of the event was absolutely awful and not just the fault of the school. It is the parents who buy their children mobile phones not the school. Of course there are problem families there always has been but that should not be a reason to not look deeper as to why these things happen in a class of 12 year olds. More watchful supervision at school perhaps?

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Ian (7th May 2022 - 13:13:26) Too many say you cannot blame the parents but I suspect the household environment of the monster that carried out this assault will be a factor. Too many parents allow their children unsupervised/ monitored internet access, don’t have age restrictions on there streaming and tv services and basically do not care what there children are exposed to. I suspect they set poor standards and probably don’t give a damn.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Eleanor (7th May 2022 - 13:34:15) Penny Williamson, the letter the editor posted was addressed to the parents and carers of children at the school, not to the general public. To post it on a public forum is irresponsible. The school have implied that most of the problems they are experiencing with the pupils are fuelled by social media. The school have also asked parents to trust them in resolving the matter so why is it being discussed on this forum? I will make no further comment on the matter but I'm sure you'll want the last word. The letter was first published on Facebook. The letter is specifically referring to the sharing of the videos taken by the children. Their reference to social media is again about the children. “.. have chosen to record footage on their mobile phones, we ask that parents speak to their children to ensure that this is not shared on social media….” “…fuelled by threats and abusive comments posted on social media; this has to stop.”

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Parent of children at bohunt (7th May 2022 - 14:15:19) Unfortunately this is a regular occurrence at bohunt. Fights are arranged all the time. My children regularly show me videos they have been sent. When sending to the school, I have received emails to say the children were only play fighting. Knives have been found in school and the response to this is that it would be from someone in the community that uses the venue outside school hours. Drugs were found by a sniffer dog but pupils were told it was just tobacco however the sniffer dog didn’t find other students tobacco. Bohunt are very good at using their words correctly to cover up the reality of what is happening in the school. They should be doing more to protect and educate children instead of saying the problem is in the local community. Everyone needs to work together to help our children. This can not carry on.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Old school boy (7th May 2022 - 15:09:03) Its a school there will always be a fights there was 36 odd years ago when Bohunt opened nothing new , but no phones then to record but thats modern way Utterly disgusting hate and anger but im afraid thats humans for you

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - passfield resident (7th May 2022 - 15:29:33) Editor-I'm not sure it is sensible to allow a post that calls a young girl a "monster", regardles of what happened at Bohunt.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (7th May 2022 - 15:32:48) Interesting how no one wants to apportion blame to the perpetrators of this heinous crime. Preferring instead to blame lockdown, parents and schools. Now that it is illegal to discipline children, behaviour such as this is not surprising.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - er (7th May 2022 - 15:53:59) My best wishes to the injured child. I haven't seen any video and have no wish to and would hope that any taken have been handed to the appropriate authorities. Re the question of filming in public places, it is both interesting and current, there are some thought provoking Youtube videos (that are a bit addictive be warned!), where so called self appointed 'public auditors' go around the streets filming anything or anyone they can see from a public place, and often getting (unlawfully) harrassed by police, security or members of the public. People in authority often try to stop them filming by persuasion or intimidation because 'the building is private' or 'you need my permission' but the auditors usually make them look stupid with legal arguments they know by heart! So filming in public places has become the norm nowadays and the police have caved in, publishing instructions to their officers not to stop it, even if it's a terrible accident scene or whatever, because they'll be in the wrong and get sued. They even issue public appeals for video evidence which helps solve many offences. So it seems to me you do not need a permit to film anywhere that is accessible to the public, so long as you are not unlawfully infringeing on someone's privacy rights or expectations (ie a neighbour pointing a security camera at your garden or into their neighbours windows is questionable, but even then not illegal per se, although potentially arguable in court at great potential expense to both parties, for excessive invasion of privacy and an injunction, with no guarantee of winning! So we just have to accept that is the modern world we live in. However a school isn't accessible to the public, at least not without authority (this is where you'd need to be a lawyer to understand the difference between general public access and public access!) and moreover is a place of safety for children to learn, so without being a lawyer in this complex field of public photography, it would seem to me that the Head or Governors or Council ought to be placed in a position by government (if they haven't been already) to ban all unauthorised photography or videoing on the school premises, make it unlawful or subject to disciplinary sanction. I would hope this is the case!.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - paul earwicker (7th May 2022 - 15:58:30) Hi, If we have an live nowadays with no discipline at home or school, it is no wonder aggressive acts take place at a young place of learning. The "woke" schools will always say there is not a problem, because of their school funding in the future. Wake up society and have discipline The Armed Services have been doing it for centuries, and some of the best performing people in the world.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Anonymous (7th May 2022 - 19:30:47) Horrible incident and beyond belief. Out of interest how many on this site are currently in talks with Bohunt over bullying of their child?

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Oz (7th May 2022 - 20:49:22) Show me a secondary school that doesn’t experience fights, drug misuse etc…? It’s in society so schools have no chance of eliminating it, no matter how hard they try. Education starts at home not in school. I work in a Hampshire secondary school and my children attend Bohunt. I can assure you Bohunt is an excellent school and there are way worse schools that you could send your child to. Don’t be quick to point the finger at the school, they aren’t the police, they can’t lay sanctions like the police. Many parents excuse poor and disrespectful behaviour as they do the same at home. Not everyone’s up bringing has the same standards. To the person who said that this is a regular occurrence, no it isn’t at all. Let’s remember here that a girl has been subjected to a vicious attack. Let the Bohunt and the police sort it out.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - John (7th May 2022 - 22:18:30) Shocking how little attention is being paid to the text within the email in that so many people falsely interpreted very clear English about the kids whom witnessed it not to share those videos on Social media and then misrepresent that as “no one should talk about this in social media” It’s embarrassing some of you can’t read ! There is NO instruction from Bohunt asking us to stop this discussion, a discussion that is being carried out in a mature and concerned fashion that is properly moderated.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Anonymous (7th May 2022 - 23:18:48) The day before the girl was attacked there was an incident in the toilets, a boy in year 9 was punched in the face while someone stood and filmed the whole thing. A week before there was another incident where a boy was cornered and beaten in the school and then again at the train station, both were filmed and shared. There’s violence in that school most days.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sandra (8th May 2022 - 19:45:39) If Bohunt concentrated on there school rather than there school uniform policy of what child doesn’t wear a jumper / blazer around the school in hot weather / outside of school too maybe they can start to realise they have issues within there school . Also if children have footage of any doings in that school how can the school deny ? If there’s footage surely the police can be called in about all these fights / behaviour issues and where are the local council to think hang on what’s going on in this school , and step in . Am I wrong or am I right in what I’m saying ?

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Susan (8th May 2022 - 20:31:12) You are wrong with this, it is Bohunt's responsibility to deal with this.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Helen (8th May 2022 - 20:46:54) Sandra the school is an academy school which means they are not under the direct control of the local councils.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Helen (9th May 2022 - 06:26:32) The third reply on this thread (Ex-Bohunt parent) asks us to remember that Bohunt is an amazing school. It’s not an amazing school by any stretch of the imagination and all I can assume is that your Ex-parent status was more than a decade ago. So sad to hear about the serious incident and sending thoughts to all.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Petra (9th May 2022 - 15:25:32) Helen. Just because this terrible incident has occurred at the school doesn’t make it a bad school. You need to look at the bigger picture. Schools can try & try but a bad egg is a bad egg, school is not going to change that. Home life is the biggest influence over a student. It’s always so easy to point the finger at the school, trying pointing it at the parenting. Values start at home! The perpetrator was obviously in a rage of anger, how does the school stop that? It happened at the end of a lunch break. Staff are on duty, but not at every corner, that’s impossible. Don’t be so judgemental and let the school & police sort this awful situation out.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Anon (9th May 2022 - 21:09:35) Seriously unacceptable. Yes fights happen, and always have but this level of violence is just not right. What happens if a child is physically or mentally scarred for life, or worse. There are a lot of fundamental issues that the school need to look at. It’s not just violence but the general level of respect for others that seems to have gone. I understand it is hard to control what frame of mind a child comes into school with but to do this to another human is not right. I hope they will not be allowed to enter the school again for the safety of others.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Pete (10th May 2022 - 07:33:55) Susan- You are wrong, it was the parents responsibility and now it is the police's. Helen- Bohunt is an amazing school or has been for my two. Maybe its a case of you get out what you put in.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Parent of children at bohunt (10th May 2022 - 09:31:43) I must stress this is a regular occurrence. I have made many complaints. Did you know bohunt haven’t had an ofsted inspection since 2013? Their pastoral care is very bad, they don’t know how to tailor their support to an individuals needs. Let’s not even get started on their ability to support children with SEN needs. Lastly bullying is never stopped until a children feels they have nothing left to do but fight back and become the violent one. To put it in short bohunt is a good school but only if your child is academically capable of achieving the grades because at this point they can behave how they like and get away with it. The more complaints that are made the local Authority can and will step in forcing the governors to look at changes within the school.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (10th May 2022 - 10:42:47) One of the arguments put forward for the abolition of corporal punishment in schools was that caning or smacking a child is likely to make the child a violent person. The child who committed this crime has never been caned at school so I think that disproves that argument. The reports by parents on this thread concerning bullying and violence bear no similarity to my experience of the school when it opened in 1978. In those days most of us would get a good hiding at home for misconduct and even though the cane was never used at Bohunt a whack round the ear from teacher was enough to maintain discipline. But of course, all that is illegal now, the end result being a schoolgirl having her head kicked in because the perpetrator knows that they will get away with it. It could be argued that the abolition of the cane caused an innocent young schoolgirl to end up in the back of an ambulance while her attacker gets rewarded by being excluded from school.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Ann (10th May 2022 - 11:46:16) Does anyone know how the injured girl is?

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Dave (10th May 2022 - 11:57:39) D - you really want a return to legal child abuse with children being beaten? Thank goodness the world has moved away from your archaic opinions. I am 61 and regularly got the cane, in fact I chose it over detention as it didn't deter me. And my school (local) had massive fighting problems despite corporal punishment being frequently used. Amazing how some actively support assault on kids to deter assault in the name of discipline. No wonder our youngsters struggle to respect some older generations

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (10th May 2022 - 13:06:14) Personally, I've always thought that to refer to the legal corporal punishment of children as "child abuse" is a bit like saying anyone serving a prison sentence is being deprived of their human rights. Surely it is a bigger "abuse" of children to let them grow into people whom think it acceptable to kick their classmates heads in at school. This is clearly something we are going to have to agree to differ on, Dave.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - passfield resident (10th May 2022 - 14:30:51) Shame this thread has produced the same old comments about discipline and corporal punishment. A discussion about pupils having phones in school would be more relevant. If you speak to teachers and ask them how behaviour / discipline could be improved in schools they will probably tend to say they'd like more back up from school management and parents.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - dave (10th May 2022 - 17:37:23) "I've always thought that to refer to the legal corporal punishment of children as "child abuse" is a bit like saying anyone serving a prison sentence is being deprived of their human rights" Well that just about sums up the weakness of your argument then. Adult prisoners are no longer beaten (which is an abuse of human rights), they are incarcerated (which is not an abuse of human rights). Children are no longer beaten (which is abuse), they are put in detention (which is not abuse), thank goodness we do not live in your world of hell

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (10th May 2022 - 19:20:12) Well, Dave. If the cane never deterred you from bad behaviour and you CHOSE to have the cane, it can't be that bad.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Ian (10th May 2022 - 19:47:43) D- I wonder how many teachers got off on thrashing young children! Back in the ‘good old days’ everyone got a right old thrill out of a giving a good spanking didn’t they? Funny what some yearn to return to!

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (10th May 2022 - 20:39:44) Maybe at your school, Ian. Certainly not at mine.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - paul (10th May 2022 - 21:14:54) Hi, Is it really relevant to talk about school "in my day"? What matters to pupils in 2022 is to be able to learn, and progress in education in a safe environment. There are clearly incidents that take place at Bohunt School , but only the professional staff are authorized, and capable to deal with. We have lost the place of education is fun, and a rewarding young pursuit, not for a place of intimidation.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (11th May 2022 - 09:01:11) Couldn't agree more, Paul. A girl shouldn't go to school and be in fear of having her head kicked in by her schoolmates. Unfortunately, if some contributors on this website are anything to go by, the rights of the perpetrator of this crime seem to take priority over those of the victim.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sam (11th May 2022 - 11:13:44) D - I am confused of your position, are you saying that the girl who committed this violent act should be punished for her wrongdoing through another act of violence? So effectively teaching her that if she does something wrong, she will be punished by violence, she will then understand that if she perceives someone has wronged her she would know that using violence is not the answer? I don't think anyone is saying the perpetrator should not be punished, it's more that using violence to teach someone violence is wrong is a bit of a contradictory position. You also can't take a sample size of 1 and use that as the net outcome of banning corporal punishment. If we take a bigger view and look at crime rates, they peaked in the early 2000's and have been dropping since. Interestingly the biggest increase started in the 1960's and went through to the early 90's then started tapering off. Coincidentally (or not) correlated with,with the time those who went to school without corporal punishment reaching adulthood. Lets not let factual data stop out emotive opinions and prejudices though.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (11th May 2022 - 12:30:27) Sam, where did I write that violence should be used against this girl? I can't see where I did so please do enlighten me. My position on corporal punishment is that the fear if it was for centuries an effective way of instilling discipline and good behaviour in most children which may have prevented this occurrence in the first place. Do I think this girl should be punished? Yes, in court. So, Sam, how would YOU deal with this situation, and how would YOU have prevented it happening in the first place?

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - er (11th May 2022 - 13:43:10) Interestingly, smacking your own child is not illegal in England yet, although harming a child of course is a criminal offence, it seems to be a very fine line so best don't do it unless you have a good lawyer present to oversee! I think institutional corporal punishment is of a different, bygone era when generally speaking, English people believed in authority and backed teachers, police and government unquestioningly, the rule of law and the need to bring errant strays into line for the good of the Empire and all that! Since the advent of human rights lobbying, liberal media, no win no fee litigation lawyers etc and particularly now with the dawn of the mobile phones, instant video uploading and online debate, the power has largely switched. Only time will tell if this improves society or overall life experiences, will human dignity increase or will poverty, blight of drugs, self serving elitism and stagnation destroy socialist hopes, I suspect as ever we are just in a momentary phase of an ever evolving clash of ideologies between right and left, sadly the movements across much of the world seem to be leading towards more authoritarianism, but we'll see, well the young will anyway, good luck!

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - dave (11th May 2022 - 14:06:03) So, D, how would YOU deal with this situation, and how would YOU have prevented it happening in the first place? The threat of a good thrashing but with no intent to carry through?

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (11th May 2022 - 16:05:03) Dave, I'm sorry the cane didn't work for you but on the occasions I witnessed corporal punishment at school (be it the cane, ruler, blackboard rubber, belt or just a smack) it was justified on the part of the teacher and the recipient really did deserve it. It was a quick, just, effective way to deal with a problem in class rather than phoning parents, writing letters, holding meetings with the parents etc. All of which takes up valuable time which could be better used on the children who DO want to learn.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - dave (11th May 2022 - 17:24:21) D - So are you advocating that violence should be used against this girl? You are all over the place with your argument. On the one hand you are inferring that corporal punishment (violence) should be reintroduced in schools yet you are also saying you do not advocate violence!!!!

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - M (11th May 2022 - 19:53:44) I hope most educated people realise that's it's too late to try to either punish or even re-educate this poor girl, with regard to her violent behaviour. I hope most educated people realise that it's at home, and at a very early age, that children learn right and wrong, and the consequences of doing wrong. Parents should, and need to, take full responsibility for their childrens actions and take the appropriate action to ensure they realise their inappropriate behaviour. Everyone should stop blaming others and take responsibility for their own actions and have respect for others and their environment.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - passfield resident (11th May 2022 - 20:13:24) D- what a load of twaddle. Violence of the type you are on about was something used in the past by inadequete people who had no genuine control over students. It was pathetic, cowardly and counter-productive.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Rob (11th May 2022 - 20:52:08) Bohunt a nice school is it FUDGE!! THE bullying that goes on there is bloody awful, no discipline there, horrid place. I hope that poor girl recovers and the parents sue the hell out of bohunt, because bullying has been rife there for years! I hope the offender gets her just deserts!!!

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Ron (11th May 2022 - 20:55:26) D - I agree with you totally. Spare the rod ..............!!!

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - er (11th May 2022 - 22:01:15) M, parents should take full responsibility for their childrens actions eh? Well I'm a parent and whilst I did my best and my offspring werent perfect in every way by any means, I never beat myself up with the thought that I was fully responsible for everything wrong they ever did, I may have picked up the tab for a broken window pane once and promised to stop them playing cricket in the back garden, but if one had decided to throw a ruler at Wilkins Junior in Maths, in retaliation for Wilkins shoving his text book in the mud, sorry but I wasn't leading the maths class, I wasn't there and it was not on me! It sounds very simple to hold parents fully liable, but not true. Of course parenting is important but unless you wrap your children in a bubble (which is likely to backfire anyway), their society will have to share some responsibility for how people behave, in fact whilst at school responsibility for a child's supervision fall squarely on the school, the parents have very little influence over what happens there, who gets bullied. who doesn't, which gangs operate or not, we are lucky not to have a knife problem here which is huge in other school areas, but does that mean we are all better parents than say, in Haringey? In other countries they believe in communality of responsibility, like the great African saying 'it takes a village to raise a child' whilst we seem to think one or two people should do it all alone without any training, the nuclear family or the single mum/dad, blame for a school fight falls on some poor, struggling parent who has 2 jobs trying to put food on the table, but it's easier for a society to criticise that person than themselves. Not all children are identical, one parent may rightfully gloat over raising a little Einstein, another child, let's imagine, got sick when young and grew up with emotional issues, I don't know, nor do you, but it's far more complicated than you think!

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Helen (11th May 2022 - 22:20:09) To the last poster, I think you are trivialising what happened. It was not a ruler or a broken window. M’s point was very valid, something that serious means that her parents did not teach right from wrong at an early age.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (11th May 2022 - 23:09:09) Passfield resident, my teachers whom you refer to as "inadequate" and "cowardly" all fought in World War II, for people like you. For you to refer to veterans of World War II in this manner is a disgrace. You should hang your head in shame.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - er (11th May 2022 - 23:28:59) Ok Helen but I didn't wish to discuss the incident as I'm not sure that's appropriate so my reply wasn't about the incident which sounds terrible but actually is something I know nothing about, therefore I was only answering and thinking through the concept of parents being responsible and more importantly, accepting blame for all their childrens actions which obviously I thought was too sweeping a position to take, so I tried to give an example about that which I felt made an example on that point without adding to the emotions that things like this can arouse and avoiding further upset in a sensitive area.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Mary W (12th May 2022 - 00:00:19) What are the thoughts of parents about the Bohunt teacher recently banned for giving a quick slap to a child at Bohunt? In the text of these happenings I can see how a teacher could briefly lose control. hampshirelive.news/news/hampshire-news/bohunt-school-teacher-who-slapped-7065271

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - passfield resident (12th May 2022 - 07:24:53) D-fighting in WW2 made most people want to build a better more peaceful world. I was also taught by that generation. I was never hit or caned by a teacher and had huge respect for the ones who had natural authority because they were people with integrity.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Joe (12th May 2022 - 08:37:54) D I doubt whether “ every” teacher who taught you fought in WW2 ? So that means from the age of 5 you did not have even one female teacher? I am approx the same age and my teachers were of different genders age ranges and I can only think of perhaps one who we knew had been abroad fighting in WW2.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (12th May 2022 - 08:39:24) Passfield resident, I really don't see how you can say you respect World War II veterans after referring to them as "inadequate, pathetic and cowardly."

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - M (12th May 2022 - 09:20:59) As usual D is well off the topic. What a load of bunkum his attempt at an argument is! He hasn’t answered questions but rambles on instead. Pathetic.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - BD (12th May 2022 - 10:34:18) Spoke with a Bohunt pupil last evening who could not understand what all the fuss is about as this happening is the norm. To quote her "Its either fights or drugs".

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sarah (12th May 2022 - 11:09:27) Mary W The teacher who slapped a pupil was a supply teacher who had only been at the school for a short period of time. She was immediately suspended by Bohunt and reported to the relevant authorities. This happened last year and was not a secret. I don’t think Bohunt can be blamed for this, they handled it well. As a parent of pupils at the school, I have no concerns about Bohunt staff and Bohunt handled it exactly as they should.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sarah (12th May 2022 - 11:15:55) Can I also just add to people like BD who are spreading gossip, you should be prepared to put names, quotes and facts to anonymous claims, because some of these comments are near libel. There are too many people on here with no experience of the school, or who are old pupils from a long time ago, or who have spoken to someone who knows someone who said…, who are helping to tarnish the reputation of a good school. No one is saying it is perfect, it is a large state school dealing with modern issues in a large number of children, but honestly, it is a good school and local people should consider themselves lucky. The two recent situations with the poor girl who was attacked and the supply teacher (only in the school for a short period) who slapped a pupil and was immediately suspended as a member of staff are horrible situations, but not indicative of school life there. If you do not have experience of current Bohunt life as a pupil, parent or member of staff, please try not to spread rumour. It become horrible gossip.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (12th May 2022 - 12:20:47) M, I'm surprised you have such a low opinion of myself given that we share similar views on this thread. I've always seen the use of the word "pathetic" as a failing on the part of the person using the word, rather than the person it is aimed at. It's a word I associate with drunken hen parties, not sensible civilized debate. But as this thread is about schoolgirls fighting I suppose it is appropriate.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Simon (12th May 2022 - 13:49:53) We have a daughter in Year 5 at primary and need to choose a secondary school this September - we had Bohunt down but questioning that now. Be interested to hear from any parents who have children there now whether our fears are unfounded. Yes, I know fights happen in every school but we have a friend who's daughter is in the same class as the girls involved, and it doesn't sound great.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sarah (12th May 2022 - 14:01:05) Simon, I would recommend you speak to real parents in the school playground, not anonymous people on here.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Dinah (12th May 2022 - 15:40:24) I have two children at Bohunt (one in Y7 and one about to leave). We have had no issues at all and are very happy with the school. Do people really think it's worse there than any other Secondary? Goodness you must live sheltered lives. Some of the stories I've heard from friends with children at Woolmer Hill for instance make me very happy my children don't go there!

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - M (12th May 2022 - 18:00:17) D For clarity I am the M who posted about parents having responsibility for their children. The other M, who disparaged your comments, is someone else using the same ID.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - AG (16th May 2022 - 20:35:55) Bohunt School , yes, years ago it used to be a good school, unfortunately these days ,it’s more of a Business.,ran by business men!

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sarah (16th May 2022 - 22:48:53) Oh, heaven’s sake, can we let it drop! It’s a very good school just with the same problems of most large secondary schools in the country.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - D (17th May 2022 - 17:57:12) My apologies, M. I think people often hijack other persons' handles to create mistaken identity.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Liphook Resident (21st May 2022 - 21:44:55) I'm going to be honest, I've heard bad incidents from both Woolmer hill and Bohunt. However, Woolmer hill are really good at dealing with fights and drugs etc as the staff there do not take it lightly.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - anon (24th May 2022 - 19:15:27) On reading all these posts about this disgusting and disgraceful incident at Bohunt School, I am relieved that my Grand-daughter will not be attending Bohunt. My Grandson was there until before starting Sixth Form College and he advised his sister not to go to this school! A very good decision by the sound of it! I used to live in Liphook for many years and heard that bullying has been going on there for years? I hope this poor girl recovers very soon and that the school will change its policy as soon as possible so that there are no more incidents of this nature.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Pete (25th May 2022 - 08:35:41) Anon- So you only read the bad comments then?

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Anne (25th May 2022 - 10:09:24) How is the girl getting on that got beaten up?

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Bohunt Parent (30th May 2022 - 19:41:46) A bit late to the post, those who have asked about the girl who was attacked she is back at school. Physically recovered, mentally probably not. I have two children in Bohunt currently, both with some extra needs, I have to say Bohunt have been nothing but supportive. They have gone above and beyond to make sure both children have been offered help when it is needed and sorted out any bullying issues promptly and most importantly effectively. One last comment the girl who viciously attacked the other child has now gone to [removed - to prevent identifying the girl], so beware....

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Anon (13th Jul 2022 - 08:53:08) From what I’ve heard the families of the girls involved, both the victim and attacker, don’t get on. The attackers family wanted the victims family to not get the police involved and said they would deal with her. Sensibly, the victims family did involve the police and as far as I’m aware the attacker has been charged with attempted murder. It’s such a shame that a feud between two families has come to this. I hope the victim has recovered and gets the help and support she needs to overcome this ordeal.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Jack (13th Jul 2022 - 16:50:24) Anon, you use the phrases victim and attacker. From a reliable source I heard it was the a known bully who arranged the decoy fights to allow her carry out her assault, however it would appear her actions backfired as she came off worse. As stated before CPR was required. I’m not condoning what happened but it would appear that self defence was involved.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - S.Y (21st Jul 2022 - 18:35:42) There is still violence and bullying at Bohunt. They never deal with it, the media should be told and also investigations should be done. The bullies never get dealt any repercussions, in fact it's the ones that are being bullied that get asked to go in to inclusion or sit out of lessons. Bohunt should start dealing with these issues and not push them under the carpet. Who do you go to when the school won't take it seriously???

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sam (21st Jul 2022 - 19:41:58) Not sure your correct Jack, That known bully premeditated it and arranged decoy fights to give her more time to do more damage, that bully attacked and remained unhurt due to the intent and surprise, the victim suffered the injuries, it was one way and near fatal

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Timothy Wright (26th Aug 2022 - 21:19:49) Anyone trying to defend bohunt here clearly knows nothing about how that place is run... Strouger and pitabread will do the bare minimum, and sweep it under the carpet later to avoid tainting their reputation. They don't give a **** about bullying, never have done at bohunt...

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - concerned bystander (19th Jul 2023 - 13:40:17) The severe bullying at this school is still happening! and being hidden, this schools lack of care to the children's wellbeing has now, again critically affected a young childs mental health that will affect her for the rest of her life having to be home schooled and victimized for years. I have seen evidence spanning over 3+years of disgusting, vindictive bullying behavior. Even after the bullied child was taken out of the school always covered in bruises and hair missing, months later is still being harassed and bullied by vicious and threatening messages from school girls who used to bully her. Due to yet again the school and heads failure to recognize and stop this from happening in their environment the police are being involved to stop another potential near death event at the hands of Bohunt School pupils.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sarah (19th Jul 2023 - 22:32:46) I am very sorry to hear this and I very much hope the young student gets help and support soon. Please can I just stress, as a mum of three kind and gentle students at Bohunt and knowing an awful lot of the pupils in different years, most of them are lovely and would be horrified to know this was happening. Your last sentence and broad sweeping suggestion that Bohunt students are violent is unfair and will actually draw attention away from the serious point you are making about this particular situation and the particular bully/bullies involved, who need to be held to account.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - passfield resident (20th Jul 2023 - 07:51:18) Well said Sarah.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Penny Williamson (20th Jul 2023 - 13:32:56) Yes very well said Sarah. I too know families who have children at Bohunt and they have nothing but praise for the school and its teachers. Having said that, this particularly unpleasant scenario of bullying is of course unacceptable and should be reported to the appropriate people who I am sure will deal with the matter. It is in nobody's interests, least of all the school, to have have this sort of behaviour from any of its students. There was one case of bullying at the school some time ago which resulted in one girl being hospitalised. It transpired that the girl who was being bullied turned on her tormentor with the result that the tormentor ended up in hospital. It was an isolated case and I understand was dealt with although I think the bullied girl moved schools. I also think that parents should perhaps play a bigger part and educate their children as well and not just leave this to the teachers and the school. Parenting starts from the day a child is born.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Joe (20th Jul 2023 - 14:07:57) The point that concerned bystander made was that the bullying has been reported to the head and nothing has been done. Perhaps if teachers from Bohunt read this thread they will start to act. What about the school governors ? Have they been informed?

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - passfield resident (20th Jul 2023 - 18:05:32) Joe-I'm sure the Bohunt teachers read Liphook Talkback every day to see what they should be doing? !

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - er (20th Jul 2023 - 21:50:20) Sarah, just reading your post I'm really, really glad your kids haven't experienced this and they would be horrified if they knew it was happening. My only question, knowing very little if anything about life at Bohunt, is do the school not talk about bullying with the kids then? It makes me really sad. I went to school.in London and although it was probably far worse and open then, the gangs at one school I went to literally surrounded you in the lunch queue and stabbed children, bit by bit, to see who was scared, we all knew who the most prolific gangs were, even if understandably we tried to ignore it, we sort of knew who was getting it worse and I'd say the teachers had a pretty good idea too! Penny I'm sure it's a great school, I've read glowing reports in the press. Adults get huge payouts for being called pretty, ugly or fat at work, rich people get libel compensation for 'serious harm' that's right, serious harm, if someone tells a lie about them, millions and a lifetime of counselling if your a celebrity and the press listen to your voicemails, apparently you never get over it and feel insecure for the rest of your life, but bully the hell out of a little school-child, causing them to fear school and dread life, drop out early and spend years having nervous breakdowns and what can you do, but hope it stops! The teachers did nothing at my school, hell some I think even joined in, but that was London 30 years ago!

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Sarah (21st Jul 2023 - 12:44:11) - er Yes, of course my children are aware that people get bullied and we are aware it could happen to them in life, so I am not in any way being a smug ‘lucky us’ mum. Apologies if my point wasn’t clear, I was merely trying to say in relation to the last sentence or the original posters paragraph that the vast majority of the children at Bohunt are lovely (and would hate to know that this young person was in such a bad way), not the violent mass that lots of social media posts on here and Facebook imply they are. It is for the most part a very good school, with great kids and caring teachers. In answer to your question, yes, they have assemblies about bullying and processes in place. I cannot comment on this particular case, but obviously and sadly there has been bullying and some of the kids have not been nice and something hasn’t been in place to sort it out and I am sorry for that and I hope the young person is ok.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - Pete (21st Jul 2023 - 14:38:11) Sara- Well said nice to read a balanced well articulated post.

Re: Violence @ Bohunt - er (21st Jul 2023 - 16:33:41) Thanks Sarah, I have no personal experience of Bohunt so it's good to hear they've been addressing bullying at assembly. I know people are very supportive of the school and I hear most kids do really well there, I'm sure we all support their efforts just as we support the broken lives of the few, I wish there could be more support for them in society, hopefully we are moving in the right direction.

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