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Vegetarians / vegans - Passfield resident (29th Jun 2023 - 08:28:37) Why is it the vegetarians I know are ridiculously healthy (and have higher energy levels than me) without taking supplements? What about the detrimental effects of eating too much red meat? What about the appalling quality of a lot of the meat people buy from supermarkets? What about the cruelty involved in producing cheap meat? Moved to new thread as no longer anything to do with the Green Dragon thread

Re: Vegetarians / vegans - ian (29th Jun 2023 - 12:38:42) Who cares, each to their own. I just love meat and am not really happy unless I eat it at least once a day. I do wish the veggie brigade would stop preaching though, I don't care what they eat so why should they care what I eat.

Re: Vegetarians / vegans - M (29th Jun 2023 - 15:11:00) Hear Hear Ian. To much of one thing is not a healthy diet, well proven and documented. Humans are carnivors, that's why we have the teeth we have. A balanced diet of meat, vegetables, fruit and dairy is all we need, anything else is not healthy. If you don't like meat, for what ever reason, that's your choice but please don't preach to those that do! It's so boring!

Re: Vegetarians / vegans - passfield resident (29th Jun 2023 - 15:33:32) I'm not preaching-I eat meat. I just have an open mind. And I can spell.

Re: Vegetarians / vegans - Joe (29th Jun 2023 - 20:31:32) Problem is our modern diet is usually highly processed ie even vegan prepared food can contain a long list of chemicals. We also eat too much of the food with harmful additives in such as sausages bacon biscuits cake crisps chocolate etc. Our ancestors may have been carnivores but they made one kill last the whole winter as there were no farmed animals full of antibiotics, the mean was very lean.

Re: Vegetarians / vegans - er (29th Jun 2023 - 22:17:48) Actually we are neither carnivores nor herbivores but omnivores, small point but we are here because our ancestors learned to eat many different things as they pushed further north out of the temperate fertile zone and into the cold, unpopulated hinterlands where clinging to life required cunning and inventiveness. Not for them the luxuries of plentiful meat or easy to grow and pick fruits, let alone Sainsburys or the opportunity to preach the evils of eating a beefburger whilst studying sociology at uni!!! It's no wonder we are hardwired to eat whenever and whatever we can, a good trip out for most people always involves food and drink, usually too much of both, for tens or hundreds of thousands of years those who hesitated or were picky, perished as food may come along once every few days or not at all, you can't un-evolve that quickly and that includes needing our vitamin intake from meat! Fast forward now and the supermarkets litter the aisles with fancy coloured fat, sugar and pastry treats taking advantage of our genes for theirs and the foodmakers profit (wealth, another genetic human 'storing up as much as I can' craving from uncertain times past) and we wonder why our country is obese and run by the elites? But is it fair to blame the great (x100s) grandchildren of those starving prehistoric refugees for their naturally selected impulses? Incidentally, there is nothing wrong or right about eatrng meat. If there is a God he designed life that way (everything munching on everything else) and commanded us to rejoice and join in. If there's no God, (as my atheist friends love to tell me) then it's simply pure random chance that created this life and therefore, there is no right or wrong, there just is and was, and it just so happens that things munch on each other because obviously that's how it works best! For that matter, vegetables are alive too, they desire to live and no more deserve to be killed and eaten than us, where does it end, all this self righteousness:)

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