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Parking warden - Stevie Mac (27th Oct 2024  11:06:53) Good to see the parking warden making the most of the extra hour and touring the streets of Newtown Road this morning. Hopefully the drivers who continue to ignore the double yellow lines around our village, including on Newtown road, will finally start to realise they too have no right to flout the rules of the road.

Re: Parking warden - Sally G (30th Oct 2024  15:33:59) The parking warden should also fine those who seem to think they own the public roadways outside their houses by placing cones on the public road to save spaces. I’m constantly having to remove these so I can park my car. Surely the persons placing these cones on the road should be fined for littering?

Re: Parking warden - Resident (30th Oct 2024  16:57:05) Perhaps these residents have some visitors coming or a delivery or a skip don’t be so hasty..

Re: Parking warden - Jon (30th Oct 2024  17:07:33) Sally G, Which public road ?

Re: Parking warden - Sally G (30th Oct 2024  18:09:05) I’m referring to Newtown Road and Goose Rye Court. Some residents seem to believe they own the public road outside their houses, they place their little yellow cones on the road believing they own the section of road in front of their houses. I’ve had a fellow approach me on several evenings trying to intimidate me, as a lone female, when I get back to my car which I have parked legally on Newtown Road.

Re: Parking warden - Local (30th Oct 2024  19:14:57) Thought Newtown road was access only not for parking all day . If people park for long periods outside someone’s house it’s very annoying especially if you have to go and park a longways away with shopping to take inside. If people that park and go to London on the train would just think how they would feel about it .

Re: Parking warden - Jon (30th Oct 2024  19:19:23) Sally G, If you’re a resident or visiting a residence on Newtown road you can park, otherwise you cannot. The sign on each end of the road is self explanatory, Except for Access. It means only access to residence or property on the road. Take a look at the booklet “Know your road signs”. Sorry to disappoint and to read you’ve been intimidated.

Re: Parking warden - M (30th Oct 2024  21:28:33) Newtown Road is a No Vehicles (ie: No Entry) except for access. The signs have no impact on parking but as others have said you're not allowed to drive down Newtown Road unless you need access to a property (either your own property visiting a property or delivering to a property). If you drive throught Newtown Road as a "rat run" or to just park in the road as a shopper or commuter you are committing a road traffic offence and could be fined (it's the driving on the road that's the offence, not the parking on the road). How likely you are to be found out who knows.

Re: Parking warden - Editor (30th Oct 2024  21:49:04) See this 2019 thread The infamous Newtown Road

Re: Parking warden - David Lawrence (31st Oct 2024  20:21:49) I recently had the opportunity to defend someone who used an access only road and won the case without any issue. Access only roads are designed to deter people using them as a rat run due to width and are not really concerned about persons using them for parking. If a person uses an “access-only” road and parks without driving through, a potential defense could focus on interpreting the specific purpose of the “access-only” restriction and showing that the individual complied with this intent. Here’s a structured approach for such a defense argument: 1. Define “Access-Only” Purpose and Compliance • Access-Only Roads: These are generally intended to limit traffic to individuals who have legitimate reasons to be there, such as residents, business patrons, or others needing access to specific premises. • Defendant’s Compliance: If the defendant used the road to access a legitimate destination (e.g., a store, residence, or permitted parking area) and parked rather than just passing through, this can indicate they complied with the access-only designation. 2. Clarify Intent and Non-Circumvention • No Through-Traffic Violation: A primary concern with access-only roads is that they not be used as shortcuts or through-routes to other destinations. Since the defendant stopped to park, they did not use the road as a shortcut and, therefore, did not violate the “through traffic” intent. • Purposeful Presence: Evidence that the defendant had a valid reason to access a destination along that road reinforces the argument that they weren’t circumventing rules but legitimately using the road as intended. 3. Legal Precedents or Local Ordinances • Supporting Case Law: Look for cases or rulings within the local jurisdiction where courts have interpreted “access-only” rules similarly, focusing on the nature of the access rather than on mere presence. • Review Local Ordinances: The local government may define “access-only” more narrowly or broadly. If the definition supports that parking at a legitimate destination satisfies the restriction, this strengthens the defendant’s argument. 4. Evidence of Harm or Disruption • Demonstrate Minimal Disruption: Emphasize that the defendant’s action did not contribute to congestion, increase traffic load, or otherwise disrupt the purpose of the restriction. In this context, parking is less disruptive than driving through and aligns with the rule’s objective of reducing unnecessary traffic. 5. Good Faith and Reasonableness • Reasonable Interpretation: Argue that the defendant’s interpretation of “access-only” was reasonable and made in good faith, as they accessed the road to park at a permissible location without intending to violate any local traffic regulations. 6. Alternative Interpretation Ambiguity • Vagueness Defense: If “access-only” rules do not clearly address the difference between parking and driving through, this could be cited as a lack of clarity. Ambiguous terms are often interpreted in favor of the defendant in traffic and access disputes. Example Closing Argument In sum, the defendant used the access-only road in accordance with its intended purpose, stopping at a specific, legitimate location without driving through or causing disruption. Their actions align with the primary goal of such restrictions: to limit traffic to only those who have legitimate business on that road or adjacent property or business which the defendant did by parking rather than bypassing the restriction. This interpretation of “access-only” upholds both the letter and spirit of the regulation. Happy to help anyone who gets fined due to ambiguous signage.

Re: Parking warden - Stevie Mac (1st Nov 2024  07:02:38) I would argue that 'access only' is definitely unambiguous!

Re: Parking warden - Suse (1st Nov 2024  07:57:50) Steve Mac Put your argument forward then,a one line just doesn't count vs the 6 robust points from the previous post.

Re: Parking warden - M (1st Nov 2024  08:22:19) Wow David, Can see why you're obviously a Lawyer! I thought I wrote a longwinded response! Just goes to show that common sense isn't alive in the law courts of today. I've always said the "Access Only" sign has no implications on parking but if you're not visiting a premises for some reason then you shouldn't be driving on the road in the first place. Parking on the road doesn't constitute a premises in my opinion (surely the public highway is just that, a highway) but in law a parking space on the highway does, I live a learn.

Re: Parking warden - Local (1st Nov 2024  10:24:41) Yes M wow David . Can see why so many people get off in courts if the courts believe all that . Access means just that access to your property or land not to access to park all day. Access to visit a property or land not a through road. Anyway with lawyers like David seems you can park anywhere.

Re: Parking warden - er (1st Nov 2024  13:26:35) Great contribution David, probably best attempt to explain these ambiguous signs I've read anywhere! Because there aren't any yellow lines on that road, it shows what the order was concerned about, rat running due to the road cutting the corner off Station Road, particularly at rush hour. If there was a residents only parking scheme I think it would paint it in a different light, how can you get a parking fine where there are no signed restrictions, and how else can you access this public parking without entering? To ban all non resident/visitor traffic at all times, would achieve a whole different purpose, that of creating a private enclave at tax payers expense, I'm not sure there is a precedent for that, it would be like creating a restricted byway, you can ban certain types of vehicles at certain times, allow buses or taxis only etc, but you can't ban a class of people from a public road, there must be a clearly thought through process and it must be very clear and understandable. David, I'm interested though in what you say about local supporting case law or local interpretation of meaning, are these signs now enforced by councils rather than police and magistrates courts under the Traffic Management Act? I believe (assuming the council have accepted enforcement powers here under Section 6 for moving traffic offences) that their mandate from government is simply to ensure: 'traffic moves freely and quickly' ...whilst avoiding vague or confusing signage. Otherwise it could be seen as revenue raising and should not be enforced. Parking offences are dealt with under different powers and the people mustn't confuse the two, there are currently no parking restrictions in much of that road.

Re: Parking warden - Alan (1st Nov 2024  13:42:51) Has anyone actually seen the legal document that defines the use of those signs on Newtown Road. Are they actually legal at all ? Interestingly I found this - "It is proposed to change the restrictions of the Limited Waiting bays on Station Road to 1 hour, return prohibited within 1 hour, Mon-Sat, 8am – 6pm." It used to apply 24/7. This was specifically to allow Newtown Road residents to park there overnight.

Re: Parking warden - er (1st Nov 2024  13:51:19) Correction: I believe parking enforcement where applicable is also covered under Section 6, my apologies.

Re: Parking warden - Sam (1st Nov 2024  18:01:47) Newtown roads signs are unenforceable, parking there whilst not a resident isn’t a crime and you won’t have any trouble in doing so other than being intimidated by residents. It’s not a no parking sign, park there all you like, it’s a public road.

Re: Parking warden - Resident of liphook (1st Nov 2024  18:30:03) Just wondering what’s the point of having signs saying access only and nobody taking any notice. My opinion access only means just that access to your property. Not to park all day from very early in the morning when you don’t live there. Perhaps it’s time a ruling was sorted and enforced.

Re: Parking warden - Joe (2nd Nov 2024  15:07:34) From the above legal opinion it is up to the local authorities to clarify what is on the sign - it is a grey area because “residents only access “on the sign implies a private road and obviously the residents do not live in a private road.

Re: Parking warden - Richard (2nd Nov 2024  17:20:13) Why don't the residents of Newtown Road petition the council to make it a No Through Road. That way, no more rat-running!

Re: Parking warden - Ian (2nd Nov 2024  18:11:51) Communist Sam banging on again, probably thinks you shouldn’t own your own home either and the poor oppressed working classes should be allowed to live rent free in any spare rooms you have.

Re: Parking warden - Joe (2nd Nov 2024  18:18:56) A no through Road would not stop commuters parking there the only way to do that would be to set up a residents permit parking scheme it works in Guildford.

Re: Parking warden - David Lawrence (3rd Nov 2024  01:34:37) For the avoidance of any doubt you can must definitely legally park on Newtown Road and move aside any illegally placed cones and park your car. The road is a public highway with no parking restrictions only access restrictions. It is the residents who are placing yellow pieces of rubbish on a public highway who are committing the offence. Do not be intimidated by these fly tippers and advise them accordingly of your legal right to park your car.

Re: Parking warden - Local (3rd Nov 2024  09:49:13) David you state access only that means you can only access the road to get to your property or land or work so if your accessing it just to park all day and you are not doing anything else then you are accessing illegally. It’s not the parking it’s the accessing it’s totally illegal to access the road just to park.

Re: Parking warden - er (3rd Nov 2024  11:04:47) Local, I think this is why we need lawyers and judges, lawyers analyse the tiny detail, the wording, the spirit of the law and try to define what the law actually says and intended, judges take all of that as well as their own years of training into account to reach a final conclusion, they exercise the principles of equity, precedent, interpretation etc whereas we 'blokes down the pub' reckon we know best and just know we're right, end of, thankfully we are judged by the former, I believe it makes the difference between order and chaos:)

Re: Parking warden - Local (3rd Nov 2024  15:41:17) er you sound as if you would make a good lawyer. I’m just a local resident nowhere near the station but just stating what the sign says access only in my view as a driver that means I can only go down that road if I’m actually accessing something ie property or visiting someone. Not to park all day without a reason yes your probably right solicitors and lawyers will argue differently but that doesn’t mean they are correct they could be challenged they aren’t always right as seen in the past. But everyone has their own views so it goes on it should be put to Hampshire Highways to review the situation. Don’t get to the pub much.

Re: Parking warden - Joe (4th Nov 2024  03:46:48) If Newtown road were a private road it would be residents and visitor parking only. It is not a private road, so the residents are not paying for the upkeep and do not get a say in who parks on essentially a county council owned road. No one has the right to park outside their own house on a public road. The sign which says access only means “ do not use this residential road as a short cut. “

Re: Parking warden - Jon (4th Nov 2024  09:25:40) Joe, To get the correct meaning of the sign look at the booklet “Know your road signs” the next time you’re in W H Smiths. Don’t quote something out of the Beano it’s misleading.

Re: Parking warden - Steve Cooke (4th Nov 2024  09:29:54) For clarification I have spoken to Hampshire Highways. However they were a little woolly on details! What they did establish though is that THERE ARE NO RESIDENT ONLY parking restrictions in Newtown Road! If there were this would be clearly stated. The current notices are designed to stop the road being used as a rat run and that is all! I clarified with them that traffic wardens have no powers to issue fines for any parking in the road and residents have no rights to put bollards anywhere along the road. In fact they did say the placement of bollards by residents could be deemed an offence!!!!

Re: Parking warden - Local (4th Nov 2024  10:10:04) So Steve it’s illegal to enter the road unless you have business there ie live there visiting or delivering or work you must not enter otherwise so you can’t enter just to park for the day. Seems to enter for parking is the same as entering for rat running Illegal. I think a court would uphold a conviction perhaps some cameras to back up illegal parking would help.

Re: Parking warden - JH (4th Nov 2024  10:16:24) Plenty of examples of local authorities getting to grips with this problem. Kings Road in Haslemere, and all the local streets near the station have double yellow lines, interspersed with parking bays clearly marked with signs which state that parking is for permit holders only. The permits are issued by Waverley council to residents, and a charge is made for these. The charges probably pay for the occasional visit of a traffic warden. Why can't we do the same in Liphook?

Re: Parking warden - Joe (4th Nov 2024  17:55:55) Jon Steve Cooke has confirmed what I had already said so I think you owe me an apology for saying my thoughts were straight from the Beano.

Re: Parking warden - Sam (4th Nov 2024  18:44:39) Why is a campaign by residents of Newtown Road allowed to persist? It’s a well known fact the current signs are as enforceable as a home made sign on a printed sheet of A4 paper. Everyone knows they are free to drive through, park or other as it’s a public road. It’s not fair that the rest of us have to put up with this abusive set of untruths and mis facts. I pay my tax’s which permits me to both drive down and park on Newtown Road. What sort of people live there anyway? Is it that important that some of them continue this campaign of lies and hate to other law and within their rights members of the public? The sign means nothing, rather than rant at other go to the authorities (as am sure you have been) or all of you chip in, buy the road and make it private and do what you want with it.

Re: Parking warden - Rupert (4th Nov 2024  20:18:15) I contacted my old colleague at East Hants district council today and they have been made aware of the illegal practise of residents littering by placing cones on Newtown Rd. She has advised me that they will be making spot checks and clearing any illegally placed cones and issuing fines where it the ownership can be determined. She also confirmed as per the previous persons post that there are no parking restrictions on Newtown Road and there are no plans at present to implement them.

Re: Parking warden - Re (4th Nov 2024  22:23:24) So all the people that want to park free are pulling all the stops out. My mate at EHDC come on . Why have the signs been put up if they are not enforceable just seems it’s the old story motorists not wanting to abide by the law. So perhaps a few fines would be in order.

Re: Parking warden - Jon (5th Nov 2024  06:52:42) Joe, From the Ministry of Transport book Know your traffic signs. White background, red circle with black motorcycle and car. No motor vehicles. White rectangle, black edge and black except for access. Except for access to premises or land adjacent to the road where there is no other route. No mention of no through road as yourself and Steve Cooke claim. As there is another route, Midhurst road, Station road, it would appear that unless for access, no motor vehicles allowed.

Re: Parking warden - Re (5th Nov 2024  10:22:14) Seems that whoever put the signs up in the first place ie EHDC or HCC Highways should be contacted to verify exactly the rules. Looks like it’s the controversial about the entry to the road for what purpose if you have business there or not it seems to enter just to park is illegal.

Re: Parking warden - er (5th Nov 2024  11:03:37) I think the argument made above is that parking is a legitimate purpose where there are no public parking restrictions, if there were residents only bays, then entry to park wouldn't be legitimate business while they were in operation. Simple argument really folk,how hard is it really? The council chose not to include parking restrictions so they have allowed access for parking, it is a public street not a private road after all, we should respect the council, that is the rationale argument. If there was no access to any vehicle except residents at any time the road would be private but we would still be paying for it, the council would need to be able to justify that, obviously they couldn't or didn't want to. To get around that they would have had to rethink the whole scheme, perhaps with timed no entry and residents bays at peak times only, like elsewhere, they'd have to basically start from scratch with a different proposal. If the residents want a completely private road and car park they may have save up, like everyone else, they exist but at a cost for the few!

Re: Parking warden - Jon (5th Nov 2024  15:29:43) Er, Where is the sign that states there is access for parking? The council have made no such allowance. The sign states no vehicles allowed except for access. So if you’re not accessing you can’t drive on the road, and if you can’t drive on the road you can’t park on it unless you’re a miracle worker. Being a public road is irrelevant, some public roads are one way, you wouldn’t drive the other way just because it’s a public road would you?

Re: Parking warden - Re (5th Nov 2024  16:51:59) Agree Jon the sign clearly states only access which means just that if your not accessing for reason ie to carry out a delivery or live there or work in other words you must have a reason to access NOT just to park. As has been said it’s time the appropriate authorities resolved the issue. We have two sides that have different opinions with no one really knowing the official laws .

Re: Parking warden - Bobby Hall (5th Nov 2024  19:09:57) Completely agree Stevie Mack, the signs at the end of Newtown Road clearly say 'except for access', so people who are trying to access the schools quicker clear off and wait in the traffic like everyone else does, and people who are using Newtown Road to park their cars, park somewhere else, because most evenings when I come home from work I don't have anywhere to park and I live on the bloody street. Go and pay at the station car park! And don't be an idiot, and park on the yellow lines because you'll eventually find out the consequence from the good old Traffic Warden!

Re: Parking warden - Rupert (5th Nov 2024  20:47:55) Hello Bobby, if you want a guaranteed parking space in the evening when you return from work you either can create a driveway on your own private land or try to purchase the very public road in front of your house and make it a private road. Newtown Road is a public road and as such everyone with a taxed car has a legal right to use it, park on it or simply drive down it. The camper van behind Sainsbury’s was looking for a new location to park up and set up home!

Re: Parking warden - Re (5th Nov 2024  22:22:16) So Rubert you choose to ignore the ligament signs . Public roads have all sorts of restrictions that everyone should abide by.

Re: Parking warden - er (5th Nov 2024  23:58:28) Jon, keep bleating on about no parking as much as you like, it only proves my point that all of our opinions, unless legally trained are nothing but hot air, we all think we know best and only us, but courts don't work that way, because they aren't impressed by our 'legal opinion'! So I offered my opinions on the only contribution from someone claiming to have first hand legal experience of these actual matters, David, and I think we could all benefit from reading and focussing on his point number 2! His post is a great example of how a legal case is assembled If you understand it, you will understand, then come back to me, if not, read it again and see the reasoning, difference between legal argument and Talkback argument!

Re: Parking warden - Joe (6th Nov 2024  09:19:33) The only way to guarantee a parking space if you have not bought a house with a garage is to create one in your frontage and apply for a dropped kerb to create the access to it. There are no rights to park outside your own house. Even if a residents only scheme is introduced it would probably include double yellow lines in some of the road which may include being painted on the highway outside your house.

Re: Parking warden - Jen (6th Nov 2024  13:17:07) Residents on a street in Aberystwyth have all been sent letters from the county council warning them that it is illegal to put cones, or other objects, onto the road to prevent parking outsde their houses. walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/residents-welsh-town-threatened-prison-30262043 The story was discussed on Radio 2 yesterday on the Jeremy Vine show (Tina Daheley sitting in). The discussion starts at about 1hr 34 min after the start of the programme. I think the only solution to this ongoing dispute regarding Newtown Road will be for the residents to apply to the council for a residents' parking permit scheme to be set up.

Re: Parking warden - Rupert (6th Nov 2024  17:07:02) I parked on Newtown Road yesterday as I had to take the train to Woking and there was no issue parking at between 11am until 2pm. I’m guessing if everyone living on the road heads out to work in the morning and the commuters park until 5-6pm the issue can’t be created by people using the road as a carpark. The issue with spaces is due to so many residents having 2-3 cars per house and all expect to park on the road outside their property. Only real solution is either to purchase the road and make it private or turn the front gardens into driveways and have dropped curbs to park their cars on them. Newtown Road car park is a great asset and needs to be protected for everyone’s benefit.

Re: Parking warden - David Lawrence (7th Nov 2024  08:44:27) To the person placing cones on Newtown Road trying to claim public land for his/her private usage to park their car(s) please see below. 1. Violation of Public Highway or Roadway Regulations • In most jurisdictions, public roads are governed by municipal or regional authorities, and these regulations prohibit private individuals from obstructing or reserving space on public land for personal use. • By placing cones on a public road to restrict access, the individual may be unlawfully appropriating public space, which could be a violation of laws related to misuse or obstruction of a highway. For example, under the UK’s Highways Act 1980, it is illegal to willfully obstruct a highway without lawful authority or excuse (Section 137). • Legal Argument: The defendant is interfering with the public’s lawful access to the road by placing cones to limit access, effectively “appropriating” public space for private use, which may constitute an unlawful obstruction. 2. Public Nuisance • The act of placing cones on public roads to reserve parking can also constitute a public nuisance, as it interferes with others’ ability to park and use the road freely. Public nuisance occurs when someone’s action unreasonably interferes with the public’s rights. • In the UK, public nuisance is a common law offense, and if a local authority decides to pursue the case, they may argue that the cones are causing inconvenience to other members of the public who wish to park there. • Legal Argument: The placement of cones constitutes an act of public nuisance by limiting public access to a space they are legally entitled to use. This action disrupts public order and creates an unfair advantage for the individual without lawful authority. 3. Interference with Local Government Jurisdiction • Many municipalities or councils have specific regulations governing street parking, including when and where temporary cones or signs may be used to restrict parking. Generally, only law enforcement or authorised entities can place cones or signs to restrict parking, typically for roadwork, events, or safety reasons. • By placing cones independently, the individual is interfering with the authority of the local council or transportation department, as they are effectively regulating the space without permission. • Legal Argument: The individual’s actions violate local ordinances governing public road management by assuming unauthorised control over public property, a role reserved for designated authorities. This can be presented as an unauthorised act of road traffic management, warranting prosecution. 4. Additional Potential Grounds: • Illegal Advertising of Reserved Parking: In some regions, claiming exclusive access to public land without permission may violate local ordinances if it’s treated as an unauthorised “advertisement” of reserved space. • Vandalism or Property Damage: If the cones or any markings made to the road are left permanently, there may also be a case for minor property damage to the road if markings or residue are left behind. In sum, the legal approach would emphasise how the individual’s use of cones on public property disrupts public order, misuses public resources, and violates public rights. All you would need to bring a case forward is the individual on camera placing the cones without having the correct permissions in place and a case could be brought against them.

Re: Parking warden - Re (7th Nov 2024  12:31:55) Some are missing the point there are signs up so it’s not just an ordinary road . There are restrictions to enter the road Rupert you should not have entered the road because you had no business there ie to visit or own a property or work delivery etc . That’s the reason for the signs it’s not rocket science it quite clearly states ACCESS ONLY perhaps some people don’t understand what that means.

Re: Parking warden - Jon (7th Nov 2024  16:32:07) Er, I can see where you’re coming from, however I’m not sure l agree with all of David’s points. But as you say it was deemed lawful so if I ever need a motoring offence lawyer I’ll look him up. I was trying to bring to the attention of some of the contributors on this post the meaning of the signs on Newtown road, as defined in the road signs book issued by the department of transport. Without success it would seem. Have a look yourself, from page 16 onwards, and make your conclusions. Baa baa!!!

Re: Parking warden - Sam (8th Nov 2024  18:04:23) Everyone understands what an Access Only sign means, but everyone also understands it’s not enforced and that it’s a sign put to placate residents. Motorways for example have sign (which are enforced) stating (70 mph) but it does not therefore follow that 100% of drivers don’t travel at 71mph of greater. Ie the sign isn’t obeyed as people know they they unlikely to get caught and unlikely to be prosecuted if they are caught doing 71mph. As such banging on about a no access sign is utterly pointless, it’s not enforced AT ALL, we all know. Am sorry if parking is a problem with train station users parking there or whatever but your not going to change it by crying about it to 10 people, half of them the same person with different fake name on here. You’re on a losing battle with a pointless sign. The Department for Transport (DfT) is preparing to issue fresh guidelines to councils that are likely to reduce the country’s 4.3 million signs. The review found that numbers had doubled in 20 years, cluttering streets, wasting money, confusing motorists and possibly leading to more accidents.

Re: Parking warden - Rupert (10th Nov 2024  18:46:10) Oh, perfect! Just what I needed—a sign telling me absolutely nothing useful. I’ll make sure to follow this to the letter…whatever that letter might be. Thank goodness it’s here to keep us all completely unclear and safely confused! Thankfully we have the silly local putting his cones out every day thinking he owns the public road!

Re: Parking warden - Amazing (10th Nov 2024  19:17:33) Lovely post residents very angry at motorists parking outside their homes all day from very early in the morning seems illegally but can’t do anything about it because nobody knows who’s got the power to stop it ?? . Motorists parking because they don’t want to pay for parking and don’t care they are causing inconvenience just wondering if they had the same problem what would they do probably be just as mad .

Re: Parking warden - Rupert (10th Nov 2024  19:40:37) Oh, I had no idea you personally owned this prime piece of public road real estate! How impressive—did the town throw in the streetlights and the pavement too, or was that extra? Love the DIY approach with the cones; nothing says ‘I make the rules’ like taking traffic management into your own hands. I’ll just make sure to get your approval next time I park… you know, on the public street that doesn’t belong to anyone.

Re: Parking warden - Joe (10th Nov 2024  19:46:53) Amazing you are missing the point of the previous postings it is not illegal to park on Newtown Road- As Newtown road is not private, there are no parking restrictions.

Re: Parking warden - Amazing (11th Nov 2024  14:32:00) Rupert and Joe think you’re both missing the point. It’s not the parking it’s entering a restricted area . Yes it’s a public road as is all other roads except of course private roads but it has a restriction on it ACCESS only self explanatory only access if you have business there. Would you drive down a road that said no entry or one way they are public roads. So I still say according to the Highway Code you should not enter to just park all day . Just for your information I don’t live anywhere near the station but I definitely wouldn’t park in Newtown road to go on the train it’s taking the p??? .

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