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new speed humps headley rd - gill (3rd Dec 2024  09:26:14) Is someone having a laugh. Putting in speed humps near a crossing . You only have 20 December to object.. notice posted on the end of the Avenue

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Jon76 (3rd Dec 2024  12:55:55) Personally I don't have any issues with the proposal, seen a number of cars speeding & not stopping for children or adults at the crossing. Presume that data from the adjacent speed-watch camera may have been of use in this proposed scheme. From this public notice portal: publicnoticeportal.uk/notice/traffic-and-roads/... EFFECT OF SCHEME: The provision of a raised zebra crossing construct two road humps in Headley Road, Liphook as follows: Road Hump - Headley Road (outside house No 65 named as 'Oak Lodge') Between a point 30 metres north of its northern kerb-line with Tower Road and a point 9.75 metres north of that point. Raised Zebra Crossing - Headley Road Between a point 100 metres north of its northern kerb-line with Tower Road and a point 9.75 metres north of that point. Road Hump - Headley Road (outside house No's 77 and 79) Between a point 165 metres north of its northern kerb-line with Tower Road and a point 9.75 metres north of that point. Each raised hump will be 75mm in height; with slope lengths of 1870mm, extending the full width of the carriageway.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Russ (3rd Dec 2024  13:03:12) Just seen this notification humps ether side and rising the crossing. Suppose not a bad idea to slow down the traffic as in lindford . While they’re at it could they make it a controlled crossing because as it is it’s very dangerous. All crossings should be controlled to stop traffic and pedestrians crossing any time. But we will expect they will say can’t afford to do that or some other excuse.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Charlie (3rd Dec 2024  13:35:54) Excellent move. Traffic needs to be slowed down.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Paul2 (3rd Dec 2024  14:53:10) Frequent deceleration and acceleration associated with speed bumps causes increased emissions (NO2 and CO), and generates more brake dust and particulate matter (PM2.5) compared to traffic that doesn't have to brake and accelerate due to speed bumps. So while the traffic might be a fraction slower, you will also enjoy more toxic particulates in the air of your house, and the regular crash of suspension over the bumps. Some of the key mechanisms associated with traffic-related air pollution you may look forward to include: 1. Cardiovascular disease 2. Respiratory disease 3. Neurological effects 4. Cancer 5. Premature mortality Enjoy those speed bumps while you can!

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Rupert (3rd Dec 2024  15:20:58) What a fabulous ideal. They really should install speed bumps on all approach roads into the center of the village where the speed reduces to 20mph to encourage people to slow down. I nearly got wiped out on more than one occasion trying to cross the Headley Rd pedestrian crossing. We also need speed cameras and noise enforcements officers to stop the anti social behaviour which seems to be increasing lately.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Russ (3rd Dec 2024  17:06:56) Really hope they make it a controlled crossing as it is so dangerous at the moment.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - James (4th Dec 2024  07:35:57) How about using the data from the camera's and prosecute the bad drivers and remove them from the road? This along with more patience and awareness from drivers would actually make the roads much safer. The roads are not the problem, the drivers are, I know, I watch it every morning. Speed humps increase pollution and noise, 24 hours a day, at least currently the road gets quieter at night, with bumps all you hear is thumps from it as trucks go over them. I feel sorry for anybody with a back injury in an ambulance who have to go over these, I know from experience, it hurts. This is the opposite of a modern transport system, tax money to build potholes on a main access road, regularly used at high speed by the emergency services, this is unreal and a flawed idea that needs a review.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - k (4th Dec 2024  09:28:31) Even if you go over speed bunps slowly causes damage to your suspension over a prolonged time i have experienced the costs driving through Lindford on a 2 way journey on an almost daily basis. It sounds to me that the proposed bumps are not in the 20 MPH section. Also uphold the problems for those travelling in Ambulances. What will be will be - but be careful for what you wish for. I can just imagine the uproar with the delays whilst they are being put in for example and the dirsuption to school traffic! Please School parents do not stand chatting at the crossing if you don't want to cross - move a reasonable distance away - it can confuse drivers I have witnessed this so many times.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Russ (4th Dec 2024  10:54:04) Speed humps are everywhere Grayshott have them crossways road. The headly road has become a race track vehicles travelling way above the limits especially from the co-op out of liphook. That crossing is very dangerous as it is right on a junction with cars queuing to to get into the avenue at school time other cars over taking the queue because they can’t wait. With people trying to cross there has been an accident and many near misses as I have said should be a controlled crossing. As for humps if you go over them at very slow speeds you should not damage your car living in the avenue have to go over them several times a day with no problems. But when you see the impatient parents driving like idiots over them no wonder they have damage.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Charlie (4th Dec 2024  11:13:04) I could not agree with you more Russ. It is a great pity that we need speed bumps at all and drivers cannot drive at a sensible and safe speed at all times. However that would be in a perfect world and the world is far from perfect.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Paul2 (4th Dec 2024  11:24:20) Speed bumps cause damage to vehicles. Confused.com completed a survey (n=2,000) that revealed 22% of drivers reported vehicle damage after driving over speed humps. The average repair as a result was ÂŁ141. Of those affected, 48% of drivers experienced tyre issues, and 33% reported suspension problems.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Charlie (4th Dec 2024  12:21:47) Paul2 Please get your facts right. This proposal is talking about installing speed humps not speed bumps. The difference between them is that speed humps are slightly smaller than speed bumps but longer and tend to work best to keep traffic between 10– 5 mph whereas speed bumps are more aggressive and aim to keep traffic between 2-10 mph. I should add that there is a misconceived conception that people who drive at lower speeds use extra fuel and create more pollution In fact the reverse is true.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - James (4th Dec 2024  12:42:28) I did a quick google, it states that humps/bumps do increase pollution in areas of high traffic, especially SUV's, HGV's and Agricultural vehicles. Since we are talking about a main access road with more than one industrial estate, this is the traffic we are talking about. A real solution would be a junction with the A3 at the Headley road bridge near hunters chase, this would relieve the village of a lot of passing and HGV traffic. This was in a plan for the bypass but was removed for cost reasons along with a flyover bridge type junction at the Ham Barn roundabout. We have been living with the consequences of this lack of fore thought ever since. I do not see how increased noise and air pollution will benefit the residents that the humps/bumps will affect. I do think that a proper enforcement camera system for speed and noise will be more effective and generate useful revenue to maintain the roads.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Russ (4th Dec 2024  14:04:12) Yes James bad planning is all we have had as I have said lived here all my life over 80 years. When the bypass was in development they were told the junction at headley was a must also ham barn roundabout was dangerous should have been a flyover slip roads to short we were told we didn’t know what we were talking about and that’s been the norm for development in liphook the local community have been ignored by the we know best brigade. When the development down longmoor road was put in HCC Highways suggested ring road 4 around the development joining headley road and longmoor road with a roundabout at headley road bridge great we thought but EHDC thought otherwise and didn’t include it that’s the sort of forward planning we have had . So liphook suffers the consequences. Just wait until we have hundreds more houses built in the wrong place.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Paul2 (4th Dec 2024  14:14:27) Charlie, I am using speed humps and bumps interchangeably. The associated braking, deceleration and acceleration with both types of traffic management systems causes air pollution. That is not in dispute. There is a significant body of published research on the poor health and increased air pollution issues associated with different types and sizes of traffic management systems, as well as increases in brake dust and other non-exhaust emissions. You may benefit from reading some of the research, such as that published in the UK by the likes of Transport for London and Kings College London amongst others.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Jen (4th Dec 2024  15:06:07) I too was astonished when I realised that houses were being built adjacent to the A3 (Hunters Chase etc) and there was to be no access to the A3 in that location. It seemed ridiculous to be forcing all of the drivers that wanted to get onto the A3 to go through the centre of Liphook to get to it. At least it did get a little better when the junction was built at Greatham, so that all of the traffic from Bordon doesn't have to come through Liphook as well.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Russ (4th Dec 2024  16:46:39) Well Jen agree should have had junction on headley road but think you’re wrong about bordon traffic a huge amount come to liphook to access the A3 and go to Haselmere station. That’s why Bramshott lanes have been trashed as well. Bordon traffic doesn’t want to go to Greatham to go to London as said liphook has suffered badly from very poor planning our lovely centre conservation area square has suffered the most. Funny old thing loads of organisers and groups to save open spaces etc etc but no one seems to want to save our history and heritage our centre.

Re: new speed humps headley rd - MikeyB (4th Dec 2024  19:18:51) Hope we get some speed humps on the Haslemere Road! There is nothing to slow the traffic down after the village centre. Maybe we should start parking on the roadside like Headley Road to slow it down?

Re: new speed humps headley rd - Charlie (5th Dec 2024  09:43:25) Paul2. Nowhere in your posts either interchangeably or not have you mentioned speed humps which are demonstrably different from speed bumps. If people cannot drive sensibly in a very built up area near a school then putting in speed humps is a very good idea. As for the criticsm that acceleration and de-acceleration between speed humps contributes to pollution etc etc the answer is simple, don't accelerate between humps - just your car drift at the same speed. After all the humps are close together.

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