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Headley rd incident - Craig (18th Dec 2013 - 20:37:05) Yet again there's been another incident where a car has been hit on the Headley road, something has to be done to stop people parking on the Headley road as it's a main road and causes a lot of traffic and tailbacks during rush hour and must be hard for other people to get in and out of their drives and one day this could be a fatal incident which I hope not!

Re: Headley rd incident - Ian (19th Dec 2013 - 09:00:06) See thread from the same period last year; Traffic Bedlam - Headley Road - (21st Nov 2012 10:31:37) Over a year on, at least 2 accidents later involving the very same parked cars, and yet nothing whatsoever appears to have changed! Come on Councillors, the time for you to step up to the plate on this issue is so long overdue it's going stagnant !!

Re: Headley rd incident - local driver (19th Dec 2013 - 11:52:18) this is an issue that will not go away until something changes! ie double yellow lines there is also the problem with drivers not thinking what they are doing! if the car is parked at the side of the road which in this case "the headley road" and the car is on your side on the road you need to give way and wait until there is space and time to manoeuvre safely past the parked car.

Re: Headley rd incident - boris (19th Dec 2013 - 14:27:20) This is a problem that is not only confined to Headley Road. London road between library and business prems has a number of vehicles parked there all day causing heavy congestion in morning and evening. But if you are expecting something to be done about it, then dream on.

Re: Headley rd incident - Greg (19th Dec 2013 - 16:31:12) The first time that I saw the posting from Chris I must admit it made me smile ƒº The hitting of a parked car on Headley road, reminded me of those old, funny insurance quotes ¡§When returning home I pulled into the wrong driveway and hit a tree that I haven¡¦t got¡¨ Or in this case ¡§I collided with a stationary car coming the other way\" I may be way off base with this but I doubt it was the parked cars fault. I commute along the B3002 most days from liphook to Lindford and it looks like EHDC have resolved the issue in Lindford, so why not in Liphook ?

Re: Headley rd incident - Tina (19th Dec 2013 - 16:36:26) And the Portsmouth Road. There is at least six cars parked today starting outside my drive going towards the village. I would like to thank the commuter that dumps his car outside mine at 5.00am really considerate of you lights ablaze and doors slamming, then trots off on the train oblivious to the traffic chaos it causes all day. It makes it very difficult to see to access my drive. We can but try to get the council to do something on these main roads, I have tried but just get palmed off with one reason or another. Last time I was given a name of the some officer that deals with parking, but nobody is that bothered. I see that Grayshott has lots of new speed humps, but Liphook seems to be the bottom of the pile for most things, I am sure we pay the same council tax so come on EHDC and Hampshire highways, a tin of yellow paint is all we ask for. It would help though if people remembered the rules of the road, give way when the car is parked on your side like you said, and also if they weren't on their phones, and stuck to the speed limits, would all make the driving much safer.

Re: Headley rd incident - Sarah (19th Dec 2013 - 17:49:49) I'd suggest that you get in touch with your local county councillor (not sure who that is or if they read these pages) however this is a county matter. If lines were put in consideration would need to be given to the entire village otherwise the problem would just move elsewhere or further up the road. In addition yellow lines are only any good if they are enforced. I guess at the moment the cars are legitimately parked there and drivers should take appropriate care when driving round them... It seems to me that some people are too impatient and will move out even when they do not have space or the right of way. My biggest problem is with the parents (and others I won't make assumptions!!) who insist on parking close to the junction of Headly Road and Tower Road which means it is impossible to see round them when turning left from Headley Road... I'm very surprised that there hasn't been an accident there.

Re: Headley rd incident - MikeyB (19th Dec 2013 - 20:46:27) It is basic common sense not to leave your car parked on a busy main road. It does not matter whether there are yellow lines or not. Will the people who park their cars on headley road please wake up and stop being silly. Your stubbornness has caused traffic jams and accidents and this will not change.

Re: Headley rd incident - dawn (20th Dec 2013 - 12:18:43) Many of those houses have created their own driveways.That is the sensible thing to do. The ones that have not would have to knock down their wall and create a driveway. Maybe they don't have the money to be able to do that? But that is the best solution. The council are not in control of highways. Never have been. The Highways department are. If local decision makers were in charge it would have been sorted out years ago - just like Tower Road, The Avenue and Avenue Close. It all comes down to budgets at the end of the day - which we don't have a say in. You cannot legislate against stupidity I'm afraid. Most of us know that you should not turn into Tower Road / Avenue Road and park just metres away from the junction. Dangerous and also against the law - but hey ho....stupid people do it every day. Short of having an IQ element to passing your driving test what can you do?

Re: Headley rd incident - H (20th Dec 2013 - 12:48:40) Some houses on the Headley Road have no front garden at all or the facility to create space to park a car. They were built before garages were invented. We need to encourage people to use their feet more, especially those parents who live near the school.

Re: Headley rd incident - dawn (20th Dec 2013 - 13:16:49) Sorry - I should have made it clear. I am talking about the houses which are set back from the road - most of which have long driveways. That is where the cars tend to park which cause the major snarl ups in the morning and evening. I was not talking about the Victorian houses at the top of the road which are subject to the yellow lines.

Re: Headley rd incident - Janet (21st Dec 2013 - 18:35:19) It's possible, of course, that the parked cars are nothing to do with the residents. Just because a vehicle is parked outside a particular property it doesn't necessarily follow that it belongs to the occupants of the property. If it's a public road without any parking restrictions, anyone can park there. So, the offending vehicles could simply be the overspill from the Co-op, the chip shop or at peak times, the schools.

Re: Headley rd incident - Phil (22nd Dec 2013 - 14:36:01) Just to be clear, the cars that are parked up on Headley Road and which have indirectly contributed to at least 2 accidents are parked outside their owners houses and they have adequate driveways. I personally believe the owners have a deluded view that leaving the cars there on a main road is somehow contributing to traffic calming outside their properties and they do not see or care for the consequences. It strikes me as selfish and self centred.

Re: Headley rd incident - Paul Robinson (22nd Dec 2013 - 18:01:32) The area on the Headley Road where these accidents have occured are clearly marked, both sides, by a single yellow line. This indicates that parking or waiting at that roadside is prohibited at certain times of day. The exact times vary by area and are indicated by signs at the roadside. I suspect that the few vehicles that regularly use this area of the road are the property of residents who do not have off road parking at their homes. I believe that the reasons that these vehicles are subject to damage has a lot to do with the position of the winter sun which is low in the sky during the mornings added to the mirroring effect of the wet road surface which can be blinding. Paul Robinson

Re: Headley rd incident - Ian (23rd Dec 2013 - 09:00:43) Paul, Incorrect. There are NO single yellow lines where these 2 accidents have happened. The lines you refer to start a few metres on the nearside well beyond where the obstruction (caused by these two cars in particular) usually is. Whether any prevailing weather conditions contributed to either incident simply proves the level of elevated risk created by the vehicles being 'parked' there in the first place. The existing yellow lines need to be extended sufficiently towards the Co-Op direction to eliminate this problem. If there is no regulation of this so-called 'on-street' parking then you don't have to be Mystic Meg to predict the next accident, and one day this will be when parents and small children are on the footpaths going to or from the little Schools. I called for this on the original thread - there needs to be a proper analysis of this specific issue - and of the risks created by doing nothing about it. If that had been done within the last 12 months, perhaps this repeat thread wouldn't have been necessary.

Re: Headley rd incident - dawn (23rd Dec 2013 - 13:11:35) Ian, here is a link to the Highways department. There will probably be a section to report dangerous obstructions where accidents have occurred. http://www3.hants.gov.uk/roads.htm If there is not a section to report what you consider to be dangerous obstruction then you can try the on-line police contact form to report it. If there is a risk to pedestrians then they may take action. www.hampshire.police.uk/...

Re: Headley rd incident - oscar (23rd Dec 2013 - 14:39:20) Hi all , It happens to be the car of a friend of mine who's car was hit . He lives in and owns one of the set back houses on the Headley road. He is one of the houses that does not have a drive or off road parking . The person who smashed into his parked car was a tree surgeon who was over the drink drive limit !!! Too many busy bodies have moved into liphook now and think they can demand yellow lines and dictate where people can park . Pity they were not around when all the new estates went up and turned our pleasant little village into a town full of interlopers. If you dont like what Liphook is move back to where you came from and leave people who are just getting on with their alone.. Oscar

Re: Headley rd incident - Peter (23rd Dec 2013 - 16:43:36) Thats just typical of people in this country these days, they think they can park where they want so they dont have to walk '2 yards' and stuff everybody else. So I have to sit in traffic on my way to work just so your friend can park where he wants. We have inconsiderate parkers where I live. Why do we have to have rules for everything. surely people can use their common sense and be considerate. Your friend should have thought about that before buying the house and it actually is a dangerous place to park anyway. There is no double yellow lines on the A3 so I think I will park there tonight.

Re: Headley rd incident - dawn (23rd Dec 2013 - 18:54:34) It is not being a 'busy body' to be concerned about obstruction of the highway. You are avoiding the problem by labelling those people agitated by the constant delay and dangerous parking as 'interlopers'. That is not the point - it is parking on a busy highway that is the point. As the number of incidents increase so will the likelihood that the obstruction will be dealt with by the police or highways. It is the police that make demands and the highways dept' that demand where yellow lines are placed. Not 'busybodies' or 'interlopers' Why don't you help your friend by knocking down the wall and turning up with a sackful of pea-shingle. Problem solved!

Re: Headley rd incident - tony (23rd Dec 2013 - 21:07:52) Here's another idea, when you see a parked car which is legally parked by the side of the road, slow down, indicate if necessary, check that it's safe to overtake, then just accelerate on your way, smoothly and safely. It's called driving and it's what the driving test is there to teach, unless they are parked in a dangerous place like a junction or causing the traffic to jam up, it's our responsibility to avoid hitting them, not theirs to move house. They certainly create jams. One other problem is the variable gap between the parked vehicles. It is impossible to tell if you have a gap to pull into or not. Sometimes there are 3 vehicles without a gap to be able to pull into. These all have to be passed before the next vehicle from the square arrives.

Re: Headley rd incident - Janet (24th Dec 2013 - 00:29:37) There is too much traffic using Headley Road! I've always thought it was a rather stupid and shortsighted decision to site the Liphook exit/entrance to the A3 at Bramshott, forcing traffic coming from the Headley Road to go through Liphook in order to accessthe A3. It would surely have been better to have the on/off ramps where the bridge is near Tunbridge Lane? Instead, they built houses there.

Re: Headley rd incident - oscar (24th Dec 2013 - 07:52:29) Well said Tony, its not hard is it .. Dawn , I bet you would be up in arms if you were told that you could not park outside your own house!! The Idea of knocking down the wall has been thought of, un fortunately there is a telegraph pole in the way . I f you would like to pay the thousands of pounds to have it moved that would be great ....

Re: Headley rd incident - Jim (24th Dec 2013 - 09:46:27) Normally a sledge hammer and a bit of manual labour does the job or is this too much like hard work and then drive around the telegraph pole, everyone's a Winner

Re: Headley rd incident - Peter (24th Dec 2013 - 13:24:24) Tony seriously, I have no problem driving and seeing cars as I have to pass said cars every morning. I think your missing the point. How can I mirror, signal etc if traffic is coming the other way which then creates the jam and in busy periods its actually not easy to get a gap with traffic coming from the many roads off the square. Oscar, I dont have parking at my house so i have to find a considerate place to park and 'walk' sorry for the naughty word, to my house.

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