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Housing development in Liphook - Flippymouse (18th Dec 2013 - 21:51:13) Can anyone help please. My family and I are moving to the Liphook area. There is lots of online reference to housing development in the area, but nothing concrete. Have the proposed developments at Lowsley Farm and along Longmoor road been rejected? Thanks

Re: Housing development in Liphook - Jane Ives (19th Dec 2013 - 08:20:20) The approved planning applications are: Silent Garden (off Portsmouth Road) - 127 houses Lowsley Farm - 155 houses Land off Canada Way - 20 houses Former OSU site - 62 houses There was a pre-planning application for 175 or so houses along Longmoor Road but no planning application yet. Liphook is expected to take about 1,400 new houses over the next 10 or so years. There will be a planning application for about 200 houses on Bohunt Manor frontage land in the new year. This is outside of our settlement boundary and in the South Downs National Park. Please enter 'Bohunt Manor' in the search box at the top of Talkback for previous discussions relating to this. Despite this, please don't be put off living here. Liphook is a great place with fantastic schools and a great community.

Re: Housing development in Liphook - liz (19th Dec 2013 - 10:46:45) If 1400 houses go ahead Liphook will be an absolute nightmare. The infrastructure cannot cope as it is - frequent power cuts, drainage issues and considerable traffic congestion. 1400 houses would also mean we will lose yet more adjacent countryside.

Re: Housing development in Liphook - steve (19th Dec 2013 - 11:31:18) Does anyone know what 1400 additional houses would represent as a percentage increase on the existing housing stock in the settlement?

Re: Housing development in Liphook - liz (19th Dec 2013 - 11:51:46) In Liphook in 2011 there were apparently 3532 households. I think this also includes the villages such as Bramshott and Passfield. If this is correct another 1400 would be nearly half as much again. OUCH!

Re: Housing development in Liphook - Trevor Maroney (19th Dec 2013 - 21:32:53) I would just like to correct the figure on future housing. The Joint Core Strategy (JCS) [EHDC & SDNP] has set a planning figure of 800 new houses in the Parish over the next 15 years, 624 of which already have planning permission. The current requirement is to find a site that can take another 175 houses in Liphook. There are, indeed, more sites that have been offered up by developers. Using the 2011 census figures 800 houses means a population increase of at least 1,800 and over 1,100 more cars. At present EHDC have assured us that the drainage infrastructure can cope with this increase and that congestion will be addressed when the location of all the houses are known and, in all probability in my view, built. [Extracts from EHDC's reponse to your Parish Council's comments on the JCS.] For more information on future housing go to the Planning & Development Section in the Parish Plan at www.liphookplan.co.uk.

Re: Housing development in Liphook - liz (20th Dec 2013 - 09:31:52) Trevor Thank you for the interesting post. So it seems we already have planning permission for a 20% increase in housing. The water/drainage infrastructure is in the hands of the local water company. Although they have to provide facilities for new housing, I think you will find they have in the past underestimated what is needed and been slow to resolve issues. I was interested in the Council's comment that congestion will be addressed. I would love to know how - I bet there isn't any information on that!! The road suggested by developers GFI between Station Road and Longmoor Rd (to facilitate their own development of course, at no cost to them) would actually worsen the situation.

Re: Housing development in Liphook - dawn (20th Dec 2013 - 12:30:45) The problem is that with each house, as we know, there is generally at least 2 whole cars. In family houses with older children there is often more. However, working from the 1950's model of planning only 1.something car is allocated to each residence. Also the garage sizes allotted are for a 1950's cars. So new garages don't usually fit modern cars [unless you plan to enter/exit using the sunroof!]. Result, each house parks their cars in the road - not because they want to but because they have no choice. Combine this with commuter parking and visitors and it is a recipe for disaster that is repeated over and over again in every new development across the country. However, increasing the 'minimum' size would cost developers money as they would be able to 'shoehorn' less houses into each space. The statistics are wrong and should be split into rural stats and town stats. We cannot do without our cars where we live. It is such an obvious problem I cannot understand why planning and highways don't talk to each other. Never have and probably never will! If only 'normal' people were in charge rather that pen pushing bean counters.

Re: Housing development in Liphook - Flippymouse (21st Dec 2013 - 09:28:34) Many thanks for the information. Very clear. I hope the infrastructure and planning to support the development is robust and well resourced. Richard

Re: Housing development in Liphook - Trevor Maroney (21st Dec 2013 - 15:44:31) The census statistics that I quoted relate purely to the Parish and cover grown in our 'rural community' over the period 2001 to 2011 - over 400 households do not own a car. For more information see the Demographics Section on the Parish Plan website at: www.liphookplan.co.uk.

Re: Housing development in Liphook - K (23rd Dec 2013 - 01:42:15) I know many are apposed to the new houses and many of u own ur houses. I work 40 hours a week and pay my taxes as well as look after my kids I need a 3 bed desperately, my kids can't share. I also need to stay in liphook I don't drive due to medical issues I can't find a swap as I'm in an upstairs flat some of us actually need the council houses. I don't earn enough to buy my own place so I am for the new building development as I don't have family to guarentor for me to private rent either !!! Hi K, I'm sorry to hear about your housing problem, but I don't believe that any of the developments will include any 'council' housing.

Re: Housing development in Liphook - H (23rd Dec 2013 - 09:38:15) Hi Trevor I was interested to find out why you think 400 households in Liphook have no car? I have lived in Liphook 10 years and have never been asked either by phone or letter whether I own a car? On what evidence is that statistic based? Can you let me know when we were all asked that question?

Re: Housing development in Liphook - Trevor Maroney (23rd Dec 2013 - 11:43:19) Dear H If you look at the Demographic Section on the Reports Page of the Parish Plan at www.liphookplan.co.uk you'll find extracts with the appropriate references to the 2011 Census and earlier censuses plus an analysis. That is where the 400 household without car in the Parish of Bramshott & Liphook came from.

Re: Housing development in Liphook - dawn (23rd Dec 2013 - 12:38:27) link to census info: zero vehicles - 400 1 vehicle - 1,326 2 or more = 1,806 ukcensusdata.com/bramshott-and-liphook

Re: Housing development in Liphook - oscar (23rd Dec 2013 - 15:28:00) More houses that the true Liphook people do not want.. Liphook used to be such a lovely little village . oscar..

Re: Housing development in Liphook - H (23rd Dec 2013 - 18:26:37) It is interesting that the census sees Liphook as suburbia!

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Re: Housing development in Liphook - Jeanette Kirby (24th Dec 2013 - 09:21:00) There must be many families in Liphook who need affordable housing. This area of the country is one of the most expensive for housing. But for those who do need help don't despair! Developers are supposed to put in up to 40% affordable housing in new developments. There is a small amount allocated on the OSU site and more scheduled on the Lowsley Farm and Silent Garden developments. They are to be offered to local families first. Under NPPF guidelines affordable housing is supposed to be scattered throughout new developments and indistinguishable from market housing. So gone are the large 'council estates' of a previous era. Affordable housing might be through housing associations, part rent part buy schemes or even rented accommodation from private landlords. What we need in Liphook is good design and the right development in the right place so the challenge is to get District Council and the SDNPA to make sure this happens! There is a Planning report on the Parish Plan website, however it needs updating because of the revised Joint Core Strategy. I know its Christmas and there are far more interesting things going on but if you get the chance have a read and let them know your views. You can put them on the website or post them here.

Re: Housing development in Liphook - Janet (24th Dec 2013 - 16:05:34) Oscar, the UK population is increasing, there is an ever increasing number of one-person households and people have got to have somewhere to live. So, unfortunately these housing developments are necessary. We have more developments here in the SE because that is where there are the most employment opportunities (if Liphook were a small village just outside Hull, it would no doubt look much the same now as 30 years ago).

Re: Housing development in Liphook - Julie (5th Jan 2014 - 17:46:25) I was under the impression that planning applications go through the council and the council then place conditions along the lines of the developer can build but a certain percentage have to be social (council) housing? In a perfect world we'd all be able to afford to buy our own property and live within walking distance of our jobs but sadly this world is far from perfect and we don't all have access to a car (bad for the environment anyway) so social housing is a necessity

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