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New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Bob (3rd Jan 2020 - 16:26:52) Anyone seen or have further information on the notice from Facebook Liphook Community Board about Harrow Estates plc claiming to have exchanged their option for 600 houses, new link road, medical centre, sports pitches, station car parking etc etc. The sites appear to join Portsmouth road with Longmoor road seems to have been earmarked for development for the last 10 years but now falls within the SDNP. Can’t see this in EHDC draft local plan?? easthants.gov.uk/draft-local-plan

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Dawn Hoskins (3rd Jan 2020 - 19:38:56) 'Options' in property are usually just a risk-free option to purchase should planning permission be granted. So a price is set based on successful permission and if no permission is obtained then the option to purchase is not taken up. So - an 'option' isn't a planning permission. You won't find anything until planning permission is submitted to EHDC/SDNP

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Yellow Bannanna Adrian (3rd Jan 2020 - 20:02:08) A link road Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road seems like a good idea to me, take some of the traffic out of the square.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - John (4th Jan 2020 - 08:47:13) The land is in the National Patk I have heard they would not support the application for 600 houses in the Park let alone a road through it.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - M (4th Jan 2020 - 09:56:09) This land is in the SDNP and therefore does not come under the planning control of EHDC and their new Local Plan, even though it is the nearest site to the centre of our village that is available for development, and would supply new facilities for our community. The SDNP Authority does not need to find sites for thousands of new homes but EHDC does, so that's the reason our community is having far less sustainable sites put forward for development on the far edges of our village because of our unique split planning situation. Totally unfair to our community because we are being forced to have the wrong proposals being forced on us, instead of the best new developments in the right place giving our community some new facilities and infrastructure we desperately need.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Resident (4th Jan 2020 - 10:16:00) There you go again John guessing . The National Park are looking into it They think they may have made a mistake with their boundaries because this piece of land is so important to the future of liphook. It’s the only place to put houses and a road in liphook.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - MJR (4th Jan 2020 - 10:32:16) John is correct. The South Downs National Park Authority will not support any development on the Bohunt Manor and Northcott Estate land which are both in the National Park. They have already published their Local Plan which identifies where in the SDNP Development will be supported. See the link southdowns.gov.uk/planning/...

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Anon (4th Jan 2020 - 15:19:16) I hope with this concrete jungle goes ahead they will keep the highest place in Liphook clear. Thats the Oak tree in the field behind Lark Rise, the one in the middle. I hope the Council put a TPO on it!

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - john (4th Jan 2020 - 16:26:30) I am not guessing resident, I have questioned the SDnp representatives on this development they will not support it. No way are they going to change boundaries now. There was a public enquiry some years ago and they did not change it then. It seems resident has a wishlist to do with building in the SDNP but that is all it is.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - SR (4th Jan 2020 - 19:43:01) Stll - it seems to depend on who you know in SDNP as Highfield School got permission to put that vast all weather pitch, together with floodlights, on the field between the school and Highfield Lane even though that area is within the SDNP. Funny that

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - long term resident 2 (5th Jan 2020 - 10:49:21) I was very disappointed that the Bohunt Manor scheme did not go ahead a few years ago, as it would have done so much for the community. If they can get this road built to bypass the village then it would really transform the village and gets my vote. If 600 houses are built in Chiltley lane and Highfield Lane it will make life unbearable for us, especially in the Berg and Haslemere Road area and Square, with dreadful, nightmarish traffic jams. We have to get cast iron assurances from Bohunt Manor that they will do all the things they promised in the past, however, otherwise it is just another stitch-up like the Canada Way houses. The Bohunt Manor bypass road should be non negotiable in all cases and maybe we could get the Highfield people to put it in and pay for it if the houses go on their land ?

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - John (5th Jan 2020 - 12:43:53) If the previous news is true and Redrow are involved in building a massive housing estate then Bohunt Manor is not involved. Bohunt only promised to release land for facilities, which they would have to do anyway, they at no time promised to build or Provide facilities themselves. That is why the football club pulled out of their negotiations as they were having to pay for access roads etc themselves as well as the clubhouse.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - RM (5th Jan 2020 - 15:16:31) Anon I think you are confused the land behind lark rise is a sangs ie protected .Wimpy who are building the 350 houses in between longmoor Road and Headley Road had to have an open space and that is it running up to popes field. They where supposed to put in the link road between Headley Road and longmoor round. But ha ho EHDC gave them permission with out enforcing them to put the roads in.It was option 4 from HCC highways.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Resident (5th Jan 2020 - 16:07:46) Long term resident you are spot on . That road is option 5 from HCC . As RM has pointed out we have lost option 4 through the total incompetence of EHDC this must not happen any more. The little used farm land in question must be used for the benefit of Liphook. The Neighbourhood Plan has all the wishes of the community they have spent years working on it. The Councils The Developers The SDNP all should take on board the content of their findings. The National Parks all over the country are being investigated by the Government because of boundaries in the wrong place ie splitting parishes. Angela Glass our District Councillor read out a statement some months ago from the Government saying they were looking into the problem and Liphook was. Mentioned as a prime example.Boundaries should be set with parishes all in or all out. Liphook’s boundary’s is quite ridiculous 500 yards from the village square Conservation Areas witch the SDNP are supposed to protect but are doing the exact opposite.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - long term resident 2 (5th Jan 2020 - 18:50:53) Resident, when you say the Bohunt Manor bypass road is number 5 on the HCC list do you mean it is top or bottom of the list, please ?

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Resident (5th Jan 2020 - 19:36:40) When HCC Highways presented EHDC with roads around Liphook at the planning meeting for Wimpys Development they were all numbered in no specific order.I think there was 6 or more routes. The two most important ones 4&5 to get traffic around the square and access the A3.But EHDC seems not to go along with the community who fought tooth nail to try and make this happen.The Northcote Developers will put their section in with their development and the Bohunt Developers will do the same but of course houses will have to pay for it. But as you say we must hold them to their words for all the goodies. Wimpy got away with it we must not let this happen again.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Long term resident 2 (6th Jan 2020 - 12:29:08) Thank you for this info, Resident. I remember when the A3 used to run through The Square years ago, hardly believable now, and what a transformation it has been to have the new leg of the A3, with Portsmouth-Petersfield-Guildford-London traffic bypassing the village ! The Nothcote road across through Bohunt Manor to Station road would have the same transformative effect on the village. This gets my vote regardless of where the houses go.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Reident (6th Jan 2020 - 12:38:18) Just found original list by HCC which was presented at the planning meeting at Penns Place for the Lowsley development by Wimpy. Option 1 :- From the London Road through the Liitle Rec to the Haslemere Road with the option of having a one way round the square. Not sure how big vehicles would get down Midhurst Road. Option 2 :- From the London Road though Radford Park Meadow Way and Malthouse Meadows and joining Haslemere Road. Option 3 :- East of Bramsott Place and Stone House Road linking with Haslemere Road. This would have to include a bridge over the River Way. Option 4 :- From Longmoor Road through Lowsley Park to Headley Road. Option 5 :- From London Road though Bohunt Manor to Portsmouth Road. We were told that full consultation would be made before any decision. There is so much in the report so if you want any more information contact EHDC These options were discussed before voting took place. Many of the committee wanted to postpone voting until the road had been sorted. But the chairman wanted it pushed through (make your own mind up about this) The large contingent of Liphook people in attendance were very verbal with their disapproval. Councillor Ferris Cowper assured us that the land for the road would be identified before building took place. Again fine words

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - john (6th Jan 2020 - 19:18:38) HCC highways dept are not going to sanction building a road ( option 5 ) unless the SDNPA give permission for it. The developer's plans seem to only have a private road through anyway not a link road? I also do not think that the Neighbourhoood development plan have sanctioned this surely? the Parish Council paid a consultant a lot of money who told them to avoid this as a development site. Surely they will respect that seeing as Feria the consultant has cost the tax payer a lot of money? why would they ignore that advice?

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Gavin (8th Jan 2020 - 15:37:13) Once again we hear mention of a link road resolving all Liphook and Liphook’s Square problems. Really. The general traffic that uses the Longmoor Road (rather than the school traffic), as proved by the transport study, if proceeding towards Liphook, is invariably heading through the village towards Haslemere, Midhurst, etc. So this traffic arrives at the junction with the Portsmouth Road and Station Road. What does it do now? Proceed up Station Road and then try and turn left or right at the steeply inclined junction by the railway bridge. The Haslemere traffic may go left, back past Sainsbury to the village or right and uses either Highfield Lane or Hollycombe Hill. A point not lost on the neighbourhood development plan consultant. Perhaps it turns left at Portsmouth road.....so back to the square. Similarly do we believe that traffic leaving Liphook by the Longmoor Road is actually going to head down the Portsmouth Road to turn right on the new link road? John’s post of the 06 January says it all. So in effect we yet again have the developer and the landlord trying to call the tune and give us the pleasure of another 600 or more houses.Welcome to the new Basingstoke. The more roads we have, said the consultant, the more traffic we get. How right that has proved to be.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Resident (8th Jan 2020 - 21:22:37) John I’m a little confused I have not said the Neighbourhood Plan has any powers if you read my post correctly I explained what they do but obviously you don’t understand.If you had attended their meeting where all the Developers put forward their developments you would have seen Northcote Trust were going to put a Road though to the bohunt boundary with a spur road into Bohunt School. Bohunt Developers were going to carry it on to Portsmouth Road .Nothing to do with HCC or EHDC .At the same meeting Bohunt School asked if they could have land for outside classrooms Northcote said no problem along with open spaces for the public to view the National Park something you cannot do know because it is private land. None of the other Developers could offer any infrastructure at all only more traffic through the square.Gavin very confused why did HCC produce 5 routes around Liphook if they are not needed according to their surveys Liphook Square is at capacity traffic at peak times that was three years ago. Now we have a 6 form collage at Bohunt Bordon new town and more.So if the A3 bypass hadn’t been built you say no new roads were would we be. When the square was redevelop the idea was to semi pedestrianised it only local traffic pie in Sky now.If we don’t do something we will lose the most precious asset we have the heart of our village town the conservation area much more valuable than a piece of under used farm land. The SDNP HAVE Got It WRONG ALL In OR ALL OUT then we can plan for the FUTURE .If all of Liphook Parrish was in the SDNP then Bohunt and Northcote would be top of the list.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Mary (9th Jan 2020 - 09:59:12) Can anyone explain something to me? A serious question. Why isn't the Haslemere traffic from the A3 routed via Hindhead? Well made road, straight into Haslemere. Seems so peculiar to send vehicles through the middle of Liphook. It surely can't be because there is so much money and influence in Hindhead?

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Resident (9th Jan 2020 - 12:32:43) Mary that’s exactly why we needed the option 4 link road to access the A3 via longmoor Road then all the Bordon traffic could go to Portsmouth London Haslemere etc with out entering Liphook.The Headley Road could be severely traffic calming to stop through traffic .Bramshott lanes are being devastated by traffic accessing the A3. Its a much shorter route via Hindhead and quicker. Again we have been let down by EHDC.All of this has been brought up at the Neighbourhood Plan meetings but the National Park are the sticking point they are causing such a problem and will not listen to local people heads in the sand comes to mind .

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - John (9th Jan 2020 - 12:35:36) Resident I am not at all confused. The neighbourhood development plan has to be approved by both the SDNP and EHDC. It will have been an expensive exercise if the SDnPA do not want the 600 houses in the park. Also just because a developer puts a road into their estate, unless it is purely for access the County Highways dept have to sanction it so the rate payers pay for it, the developers would not want to bear the cost of a single carrriageway through their estate with the associated streetlighting signage etc. The report was paid for by the developers of Oak park when their ideas for the village roundabouts were refused. They wanted to pedestrianise the whole square and have it open to traffic. County Highways did not commission this. Their remarks were that option 5 was not achievable unless The SDNPa agreed. I am not swayed by a planning application's promises and if the Neighbourhood plan steering group engaged more with the SDNP they might realise their plan for 600 houses would be rejected and save the taxpayer more money.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Rm (9th Jan 2020 - 13:35:48) We have been trying to get Hampshire Highways who’s responsible for the signing on the A3 north bound to redirect traffic to Hindhead. We have spent several years with meetings with our MP and making a video of both routes proving Hindhead is much safer and quicker. But they just will not budge they still say liphook route is better quite amazing. If you have time a few years take up the baton.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - liz (9th Jan 2020 - 13:38:50) Bordon traffic can access the A3 near Greatham. A bit longer but easier than going through Bramshott. Like the Haslemere/Hindhead issue, I think clear signage would help.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Resident (9th Jan 2020 - 13:42:01) Sorry John wrong again wimpy oak park wanted to do away with flower beds to open up the square for more traffic that was their contribution to infrastructure.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Resident (9th Jan 2020 - 13:51:55) John I also see you are confused with Midhurst Road and Portsmouth Road are sure you live in Liphook.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Richard (9th Jan 2020 - 14:19:53) Mary I said the same thing on another post. Send the Haslemere traffic off at Hindhead. They stay on the A3 longer and when they do eventually come off it's only about 2 miles to Haslemere. Coming off at Liphook it's nearer to 5 miles to Haslemere and there's a low bridge in the way. Council just needs to get rid of the come off at Liphook sign.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - Rm (9th Jan 2020 - 15:28:57) Yes Richard we offered to do it for nothing with a paint brush. But HCC said it would cost Thousands unbelievable.

Re: New link road and development Longmoor Road to Portsmouth Road - john 2 (9th Jan 2020 - 19:38:12) There could be more than one John just as there is more than one resident I am sure!

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