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Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - paul (2nd Nov 2022 - 21:17:10) Hi, Our planet were we all live, is deteriorating daily, and environmentally. Can we as a village help. Small changes by residents can make a big impact, rather than a one-off event. Having nice warm days at the end of October is not normal. We are all living in the biggest environmental change in history. Just do it for all our future generations locally.

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - Earth Resident 1 (3rd Nov 2022 - 11:53:14) At least we didn't have to put the heating on at these prices! Mind you we always had lovely Octobers and November's, it was pot luck we called them Indian Summers if I remember, not sure if I can say that now. Still at least it's lovely and cold now if it reassures you they reckon we're in for a really cold winter. Some things we can do is keep our heating off and wear blankets or coats around the house, with the cost of gas that may be what most of us are doing anyway. Also stop driving our cars, walk to work and school, if necessary move closer so you can walk, although with the price if petrol that may be what most of us will be doing anyway. Also move to a smaller house, preferably all new houses should be back to back terraces, this will conserve massive amounts of energy. Mind you with current building practices and the cost of mortgages going up that may be what most of us are doing anyway. Eat less so we need to grow less. Stop buying unnecessary items like drinks of any kind (tap water is free at point of use and most houses have it installed and delivered to the kitchen on tap), avoid superfluous unhealthy foods like crisps, cakes, pasties, ready meals, meat etc And most importantly take those iPads and gaming computers away from your kids, sell your 40 inch TV or better still burn it. Don't drive them to art classes or karate and yoga, tell them to run round the house it'll keep them warm and warm up the house and it's free, apart from the cost of trainers, don't buy imported ones knit your own from left over grass cuttings since we'll no.longer be able to grow grass anyway and you can't eat it plus it gives off co2 if you burn it.

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - Earth resident as well (3rd Nov 2022 - 13:32:09) Unless we pursuade China India and America to scale back on their emissions what we do in Liphook will make very little difference. With regard eating less if we ate fewer beef burgers, less animals would be needed and less land needed to produce cattle food for them. Also less foreign travel by plane would help, as would eating more locally produced food instead of buying green beans from Kenya.

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - PR (3rd Nov 2022 - 16:50:11) Earth Resident You are so very very right This planet has been wrecked by mankind ~ Where shall we start ~ McDonalds ~ Let's all bloat out on dead cows and sugar ~ what fun

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - Sam (5th Nov 2022 - 00:31:36) Bitchin about hedgerows and trees not been cut and losing our minds that it's a safety issue that all of nature isn't human controlled and neat when nature does a better job at looking after itself than we ever could... NO... lets spank petrol trimming and cutting it all for we are humans and nature must follow our order... we MUST ruin nature using nature's resources to restore order for we are in charge. In fact, let forget the grass and forge fake grass out of poison, then we totally shown grass who is boss. Look there is a carbon peat store, lets dig it up and use it to along with seeds not from here using carbon to get it here to be the best blooming village... let's all ruin nature yet pretend to own it by ruining it at the same time... we are good people as all we do is hold a shovel and make the place look nice ahem. we don't deserve it, not one of us do. When we are gone, it will take over, we grew veg with lumps in it 30 years ago that had ten times the nutrition that the perfect color and shape of the watery tasteless options today. Greed swallowed us, most recently pride and stupidity followed, a few are rinsing it as a cost to the rest and the few are experts at division

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - Ian. (5th Nov 2022 - 07:08:41) Sam, I'd like to try a pint of what you drink!

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - JH (7th Nov 2022 - 22:25:58) Earth Resident 1 I don't disagree with the emotion of your posting but I'm unsure how burning your flat screen TV (mostly plastic) is going to help the environment.

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - paul (8th Nov 2022 - 13:43:06) Hi, The school run of our village that is polluting twice a day during school term. This needs to be reduced by all in vehicles, including electric power trains (needing more energy to re-charge the car). The harm from toxic air to our children's lungs cannot be forgiven. A small contribution from all will help now, and for our future.

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - Leah (20th Nov 2022 - 20:18:48) There is always so much traffic in the mornings during the school run, if you can walk your children to school or car share, it truly makes a great difference. Car sharing is a fab idea in terms of saving money (especially now!), making the roads safer for people walking/cycling, stopping traffic build-up and saving the environment and children's lungs. Please do what you can!

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - LRR (12th Oct 2023 - 16:15:14) No we don't. My name is Archie and I have been a beekeeper since the age of 2. I find them a fascinating subject, but never realising what an important function Bees serve in the survival of humans! 1 in every 3 mouthfuls of food we eat and 70% of our trees are pollinated by the bees that provide vital O2. This clearly is an important part of our food chain and one we need to pay attention to. Yes, we have reduced a few of the pesticides that are harmful, there are still loads available though still being used, and we have lost 140,000 miles of the hedgerows and 97% wildflower meadows over the last 50 years. A good example of this is the lack of insects that my grandma said we would find splattered on our car windscreens, of days gone past. So, my message is simple, we need to create and provide more habitats and food for the insect population to multiply in greater numbers, to enable them to help sustain our food chain and this can be done in a very easy way. There are many miles of verges and central reservations along with roundabouts that are opportunities to convert from ugly wasteland to healthy wildflower pollinator habitats, which will not only make road travelling more attractive, but also cost effective in maintenance savings, requiring only one Autumn cut of these areas to prepare them for the following season. I am writing to all UK councils asking them to invite companies in their area to sponsor roadsides and verges and roundabouts and make them into wildflower pollinator habitats. Firstly, the council needs to have a pollination plan in place to create a pollinator friendly sponsorship scheme so that companies have the option of sponsoring bee friendly roundabouts and turn them into pollinator habitats. Then companies can be invited to sponsor for a period of min 2-3 years these areas / roundabouts not only providing good PR/Marketing for them, but also supporting their Sustainability Goals by reducing their carbon footprint by up to 80% as well as providing more habitats for pollinators. (Limerick Council are a great example of this, perhaps some learning which could be shared more widely: limerick.ie/council/services/environment/biodiversity-and-all-ireland-pollinator-plan/roundabout-sponsorship) I know that several councils already run a scheme for roundabouts, but much of this is for marketing and not to improve the area. There are loads of other areas which can be improved, and more roundabouts which can be turned into good habitats and food sources for our wildlife. I’d really love if Liphook would be more involved, (after all it’s where I keep my bees!) creating a pollination plan and supporting the environment. I have recently been part of the Save Our Wildlife documentary with SKY TV for COP28 which is on demand until December and being shown at COP28. I do hope that my plea to help the Bee population does not fall on deaf ears. www.saveourbees.co.uk

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - passfield resident (12th Oct 2023 - 17:16:06) Archie-brilliant post

Re: Do we do enough in Liphook to protect the environment? - Penny Williamson (18th Oct 2023 - 13:36:14) Archie, a well written and excellent post and I agree with you that there is so much that can be done by us to help the environment. My post hopefully complements yours which was all about supporting the environment and is in no way a criticism of your beekeeping skills of which I know nothing. I sincerely hope you find it of interest. What if there was a completely different approach to beekeeping where the beekeeper makes a hive that suits the bees. A system where the beekeeper is required to give up control and complexity and evolution is once again determined by the bees and nature. My daughter who keeps bees in Portugal introduced me to this idea. She keeps bees but only removes the honey when they indicate they are happy for her to do so. Almost unbelievable but I do believe her. I know that in many parts of the world there are huge bee farms and that won’t change because of the commercial advantages. However when the honey on these farms is removed it is my understanding that the bees are fed sugar which is the equivalent of our junk food. In addition removal causes stress, the sort we would feel if three quarters of our freezers or larders were suddenly emptied. As a result of this the bees then feel that they have to work three times as hard harvesting, leaving little time for other housekeeping activities in the hive. One of the many problems facing honey bees today is the loss of their natural habitat. One of their favoured places is in the naturally formed cavity of a mature tree, several metres up from the ground. Many of these mature trees have long since disappeared as humans continue to exploit their surroundings. Sadly, some modern beekeeping methods don't help bees in this department either. The homes provided for them are usually found near to the ground in thin-walled square boxes which offer little of the benefits of a natural tree cavity. Warm insulated hives can be constructed which encourage minimal intervention from the keeper, immediately reducing both stress and disease in the bee. These can be placed in trees encouraging bees which in turn is so good for pollination and the environment. I am certainly going to invest in at least two of these hives and install them in trees in my garden. Bee populations are declining due to parasites, pesticides, habitat loss, disease and other insect predators such as the Asian Hornet. These losses have critical implications for food production and ecosystem health. In Brazil more than 500 million bees died in Brazil in 2019and researchers have blamed the use of pesticides - chemical substances which are used to kill pests. We humans must protect the bees – we cannot survive without them.

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