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Pot holes
- shirley (27th Dec 2023 - 21:11:45)

Thanks to the person who put a cone into the ginormous pothole in the Midhurst Road on the approach to Sainsburys from the Square. It must have saved a lot of damage to vehicles..

Re: Pot holes
- Liphook Carper (2nd Jan 2024 - 22:37:57)

Yes great putting cone there,but how about getting it filled in permanently
it's been there long enough..EHDC not good enough.....

Re: Pot holes
- Polly (2nd Jan 2024 - 23:18:00)

To be fair our pot holes, whilst not always the best fixes, are generally done pretty swiftly versus the other counties abutting us. It has also been Christmas/NewYear, so perhaps give them a chance before giving them a social media verbal assault. Just saying…..

Re: Pot holes
- Paul (3rd Jan 2024 - 09:22:31)

I disagree that pot holes get filled in quickly. There are and have been some pretty impressive pot holes left untouched for months after being reported.

But one example that I saw yesterday - the old A3 to Petersfield. The pot holes from the Jolly Drover junction south have been there for well over a year.

Not an excuse, but that bit of road might be in West Sussex, not Hampshire.

Re: Pot holes
- Hilary (3rd Jan 2024 - 10:33:47)

Hello, I reported this online on the Hampshire County Council website on 18th December….

Re: Pot holes
- Penny Williamson (3rd Jan 2024 - 11:11:40)

Liphook Carper - potholes are nothing to do with EHDC, they should be reported to Hampshire County Council as Hilary has done. All too often on this site EHDC gets the blame for everything and some of it is erroneously.

Re: Pot holes
- Paul (3rd Jan 2024 - 12:25:07)

I've also reported them Hilary ;)

The more the merrier!

Re: Pot holes
- Paul (3rd Jan 2024 - 16:45:13)

Problem is the stupid electric cars on the roads now much heavier than other cars.roads not made for them
maybe should have to pay road tax on weight limit

Have you checked the weights of all the Chelsea tractors round here ? Electric cars are not the cause of any pot holes.

Re: Pot holes
- M (3rd Jan 2024 - 17:02:29)

My impression is it comes down to decades of poor maintenance of our roads.
HCC, and all councils and utilities come to think of it, appear to go down the route of cheapest tender wins and with a cheap job you get a poor road surface.
You only have to look at the Midhurst Road from Gunns Farm to Station Road where SGNs contractor dug it up a year or so ago, and also Station Road which was resurfaced a year ago and had to be repaired in various places near Midhurst Road within a year!
There are more vehicles but I think it's definitely poor workmanship!

Re: Pot holes
- Shirley (3rd Jan 2024 - 22:31:08)

The large Sainsburys delivery wagons probably don't help on that stretch of road.

Re: Pot holes
- Ian (4th Jan 2024 - 08:07:04)

It’s simple really. As a nation we have consistently voted for lower taxes, therefore not enough money for infrastructure, therefore broken country!

Re: Pot holes
- Sam (4th Jan 2024 - 20:07:45)

It’s a lot simpler than that Ian, as a nation we are led by donkeys on all sides and every time we get an opportunity to vote on something the daily mail steps in and influences a sufficient amount to get the result wrong.

To many idiots basically

Re: Pot holes
- Interested (4th Jan 2024 - 22:36:10)

So Sam who do we vote for .

Re: Pot holes
- Realist (5th Jan 2024 - 13:46:30)

The truth is we all know deep down, this will only ever get worse now.

The weather apparently will only get more erratic as we wait for the long promised heat to arrive. In the meantime as we sit here freezing and getting soaked awaiting the short, tepid summer, our governments will attend the Middle East or Carribbean biannually to pander to every child activist with zero life experience and make bigger and bigger promises to to dismantle our energy supply system in favour of things you read about in children's books and long ago history books, which sound amazing and workable on paper, like windmills and wave machines and paper clothes.

Meanwhile the councils will continue to go bust as our national expenditure rises and income tumbles. They have no legal requirement to house British people and you will see bigger and bigger gatherings of homeless in the cities, but every migrant entering Britain illegally will still be guaranteed a decent quality home by international law, at the expense of the council.

As we get older and poorer our national mental and physical health issues will rise as will crime, more people will be laid off sick on long term antidepressants and the scandal of prescription as well as illegal drugs they are suffering in America will come here. All this will cost the councils more and more.

The last thing the councils will be worrying about is potholes on our crumbling infrastructure. They will be more concerned that you put your pcm2.235 yoghurt pot lid in with your pet17.6a margarine tub and noone will care that you're 85, skint, cold and half blind, you will be fined £200 and told it's prison next time.

If you want superb roads vote for Mussolini, if you want workable socialism vote for Stalin, if you want utter utter incompetence and mediocrity we have democracy, where the people get to decide what we all do, it's the least worst system apparently!

Re: Pot holes
- Salty (5th Jan 2024 - 15:40:13)

Realist ~

Brilliant post ~ time to run as a MP ?

Re: Pot holes
- Joe (6th Jan 2024 - 09:24:17)

I think that Nigel Farage is already in politics - maybe realist could try his luck in America and help Donald Trump run the country from prison.

Re: Pot holes
- Interested (6th Jan 2024 - 22:31:01)

I see no one has said who we should vote for. Lots of sarcasm etc but no proper input. As the country seems to be topping all other countries EU America what’s wrong with staying with the devil you know.

Re: Pot holes
- passfield resident (7th Jan 2024 - 09:07:40)

Realist-there's nothing realistic about your post. You ridicule young people with no life experience, but I'd take them any day over someone as mean spirited as you seem to be . Also, you obviously have no idea about the cost of renewable energy-wind power is cheap-the difficulty with it is getting short sighted nimbys and climate change denyers to accept it.

Re: Pot holes
- Rick Van Rentals (7th Jan 2024 - 17:00:23)

Realist’s long comments are a lesson in mass depressive commentary that will have many seeking the nearest door jamb to hang themselves from. So yes a politician in the making!

Re: Pot holes
- Joe (7th Jan 2024 - 22:03:46)

Interested- where do you get your info from ? We are not top of anything in Europe or America.

Re: Pot holes
- Re (8th Jan 2024 - 10:24:39)

As usual lots of different opinions, but not a solution or a suggestion of a better government or way forward. Elections coming up so what do we do that’s the question have we got anyone any party that will make a strong government and lead this country how the majority want the majority have spoken in the past ie Brexit but it seems it all goes out the window when they get in whoever. We have had strong governments in the past that have dragged this country back onto its feet we are not in a bad position at the moment just getting to grips with our new found independence from the EU so we need someone to take us forward and capitalise on our freedom. So same question who .

Re: Pot holes
- Steve (8th Jan 2024 - 14:05:30)

Hmm but which direction is forward depends on your point of view.
Most recent opinion poll last week suggested that a comfortable majority of voters would now be in favour of rejoining the EU!

Re: Pot holes
- Re (8th Jan 2024 - 18:01:09)

Yes Steve but that is the same with everything after the fact as they say a party gets voted in by a majority but the public that didn’t want them kick up and so it goes on . As for you say a survey says a lot of people would change their vote on Brexit but in my experience there is a lot that would vote leave that voted to stay so fifty fifty me think’s. It doesn’t change the fact that we don’t have a party in opposition that stands out to do anything different. So back to square one.

Re: Pot holes
- Steve (8th Jan 2024 - 18:48:07)

Perhaps not the best thread for a Brexit debate but it's rather more than people changing their vote although some have certainly had second thoughts.
The referendum was getting on for 8 years ago and in that time a large number of young people have reached voting age. At the same time a sizeable chunk of older people, who tended to be the most fervent supporters of leaving, are no longer with us.
The Labour Party are, perhaps understandably, nervous about reopening Pandora's box but the pressure to revisit the issue will become inexorable with continuing demographic change as the years pass.

Re: Pot holes
- Re (8th Jan 2024 - 23:09:07)

That’s your opinion Steve but a great many young people have got older and can see the benefits of being out so as we can never go back because we would be crucified by the establishment it really is not worth discussing.

Re: Pot holes
- Joe (9th Jan 2024 - 08:14:02)

People who have been denied free movement to work or live in Europe will not see the benefits. The problems created by Brexit in us having to set up borders in the in the Irish Sea etc and the resulting political problems in Northern Ireland are still not resolved. We still owe the EU money.

Re: Pot holes
- C (9th Jan 2024 - 08:24:02)

Has anyone actually identified any genuine benefits of leaving the EU? I certainly can’t think of any.

Re: Pot holes
- old git (9th Jan 2024 - 09:28:55)

yet another post gone off the rails


maybe just label all posts EU/Brexit fault

Re: Pot holes
- Steve (9th Jan 2024 - 10:11:20)

Bringing the thread back on track, I see in the news this morning that HCC are actually planning to reduce spending on road maintenance!

Re: Pot holes
- John (9th Jan 2024 - 17:19:12)

Just out of interest, has the pot hole that got this thread started been repaired now?

That was what the thread was originally about wasn't it? ;-)

Re: Pot holes
- AF (9th Jan 2024 - 20:02:13)

Pot hole is fixed. It is rather amusing how these threads go completely off the point raised.

Re: Pot holes
- AF (9th Jan 2024 - 20:03:07)

Pot hole is fixed. It is rather amusing how these threads go completely off the point raised.

Re: Pot holes
- Hilary (9th Jan 2024 - 20:30:06)

Hello John, it has been repaired! ;-) I only noticed today so I’m unsure when.

Re: Pot holes
- John (10th Jan 2024 - 09:22:18)

Thanks for the responses. I'm glad it has now been fixed.

Now, about Brexit........

Re: Pot holes
- Paul (10th Jan 2024 - 10:42:21)

There are 2 Paul's on here (how popular we are!), but I didn't make the comment about the weight's of EV's to which the Editor replied.

However, I did some research. In the UK EV cars weigh 20-60% heavier than their ICE counterparts. A 100kWh battery (now quite standard) adds around 700kg.

A VW Golf weighs 1,322kg. A Tesla Model 3 weighs 1,847kg. A Model Y (the most popular car in the world currently) 2,002kg, an X weighs 2,505kg.

So EV's *are* heavier than the average ICE car, and therefore will have a more significant effect on the road.

Re: Pot holes
- Local (10th Jan 2024 - 12:40:59)

Just a thought Paul why don’t you add something to your title to stop the confusion.

Re: Pot holes
- Paul 2 (10th Jan 2024 - 16:21:52)

@Local - touche!

But, yes I have.

Re: Pot holes
- JH (13th Jan 2024 - 13:01:06)

The difference in weight between conventional cars and EVs is significant, but in the context of Light Goods Vehicles at 3500kg, bin lorries at 20000kg and HGVs at 44000kg, the impact made by cars is not particularly relevant.

Re: Pot holes
- Sam (17th Jan 2024 - 18:42:45)

Anyone whom drives in Europe frequently would be able to tell you the feeling clear difference in road quality when you arrive back in the UK, you spend hours on lovely roads to then get chucked out the window with the bumps and holes in the road in the UK. It’s embarrassing and so backward, we can do better than this

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