East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Greenfingers (6th Feb 2024 - 11:44:09)
As noted previously on Liphook Talkback and elsewhere, the Public Consultation regarding EHDC’s Draft Local Plan 2021-2040 is now underway and runs until Monday 4th March.
One of the key points is the inclusion of proposed sites for housing development at Chiltley Farm, Haslemere Road and Headley Road. (Part D, Chapter 12).
There will be a Public Event in the Millennium Centre on Wednesday 7th February between 15.30 and 19.30. Please go along to find out more and to make your comments known. This is a significant initiative which will have long-running implications for village.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Joe (6th Feb 2024 - 23:41:29)
Considering the amount of housing going up elsewhere I think Liphook is getting away lightly with the housing numbers and there are no huge sites planned for Liphook, the housing numbers are well spread around the village not too many in one place considering all the scaremongering that has been on here about 600 plus houses coming. I think we are getting away very lightly. Of course there will be an impact just as when any new houses are built anywhere. As the housing number is nothing like 600 we should feel fortunate.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Local (7th Feb 2024 - 10:10:05)
Yes Joe but do you see where the sites are all of them will impact on the square. No access to the A3 from any of them only through the square so Haslemere midhurst and headley roads become more congested and the avenue will be a nightmare because they didn’t put the link road in from headley road to longmoor road NO forward thinking the avenue is already a rat run through a housing estate ridiculous. And of course it’s only the tip of the iceberg if these sites get permission it will open the floodgates to more applications you cannot stop legitimate applications regardless of how many houses are needed. We need to plan for the future and only allow sites that will not impeach on the square and help to divert traffic away from the square there are sites that are not even on the agenda ridiculous. EHDC needs to listen to the community but don’t hold your breath.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Joe (7th Feb 2024 - 14:04:13)
The whole point of local plans is that larger developments are planned for regardless of whether or not a large app is legitimate the local authority can say that it was not planned for by them. Of course the larger sites planned for will always request some more houses on the same land. All new housing North or south of Liphook will impact on the square somehow because there is only one way to get to the A3 or Headley either from the north or south and that is through the square.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Disappointed (7th Feb 2024 - 17:57:02)
Just been to the consultation as usual just a box ticking exercise. What are the EHDC thinking about the three sites they recommend are a disaster for liphook. They must be on another planet perhaps they haven’t tried to get through the square any time. The two best sites are not even on it Bohunt and Northcott land and don’t say but they are in the National Park that makes no difference it can be challenged. Pannely farm hewshot lane perfect place kids can walk to school from there and direct access to the A3 . EHDC needs to take their heads out of the sand and listen to local people stop being I know best attitude because you are ruining liphook.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Disappointed (8th Feb 2024 - 09:33:27)
Another thing why is it a body like the national parks people can set a boundary through the middle of a community right alongside a conservation area that completely ruins are Parrish. This has gone on all over the country it’s about time the government stepped in and sorted it out.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Joe (8th Feb 2024 - 09:50:31)
The SDNPA know the housing numbers they need for the whole national Park area and it equates to about 300 houses per year. It is unlikely they will see the need for a huge housing estate in Liphook if EHDC have not.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Disappointed (8th Feb 2024 - 12:08:53)
Yes Joe that’s the problem they have set boundaries to split parishes not only here but all over definitely not a good thing. As liphook all the houses that are going to be built have to go in the wrong place making a mockery of our conservation area quite ridiculous national parks are supposed to protect conservation areas doing the opposite in liphook. If the boundaries had been set correctly all in or all out of the Parrish then future houses allocation could go in the most appropriate place. So it comes down to VERY poor management by the national parks people not taking into consideration of the impact on a community. They seem not to care about what’s happening in the community. As said it’s time it was sorted.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Joe (9th Feb 2024 - 09:45:23)
I do also think though that the conservation in the square has over the years been allowed to get away with planning nightmares? New houses built which do not incorporate any sense of brickwork or stone to blend in, garish commercial signs etc. It is not only the amount of traffic through which needs to be addressed. If a visitor drove through the first impression is not one of a conservation area just by looking around.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Disappointed (9th Feb 2024 - 11:09:58)
Quite so Joe a lot needs sorting but the national parks people are NOT helping by their stances of not negotiating with EHDC and listening to the community the people that live here and definitely know best complete and utter disaster cutting the Parrish in two should never been allowed what idiot on the national parks thought of that. As said it’s time the government sorted this out all over the country.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Joe (10th Feb 2024 - 11:45:51)
The SDNPA did not “ cut the village in two” by putting the boundary where they did - all that happened so far they stopped a housing developer building a massive housing estate in their area of countryside no other impact - the surgery has had permission to build on a piece of land there but could not get NHS funding. The football club had permission to build there - could not get funding. Do not blame the Park authorities for not doing anything for land which is not under their control like the square. Who knows what the Park will allow in the future? They are already conducting a review to allow for more housing but unlikely they would allow 600 houses which are not needed anyway.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Disappointed (10th Feb 2024 - 20:45:21)
So Joe putting the boundary alongside the square as we take the square as the centre of our village is not splitting it in two?? . So in the future 600 houses spread out on the wrong side of the square is ok because that’s what will happen if the sites that EHDC have put forward get the go head because then it opens the door for all the other developers to put their applications in ie Highfield school wanting to develop all the land between Highfield lane and chiltlee lane some 600 houses in one go . Devils lane both sides shall I go on it’s not rocket science. Much better to have a development that doesn’t cause so much harm and possibly some gains. That land is private farm land NO ONE is allowed out there so what good is it to our community . Possibly if handled correctly it could give us so much. Anyway you have your opinion and a great many have a different opinion that your prerogative.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Editor (10th Feb 2024 - 20:58:43)
Bohunt Manor - from sosbohuntmanor.co.uk
"In 1971 Sir Adrian Holman left the estate to the World Wildlife Fund in his will with his widow remaining in occupation for 30 years. Shortly after she moved from the estate due to ill health, the World Wildlife Fund put the property and grounds on the market and it was sold in 2005 for £2 million. If houses are built there is a clause that states that the World Wildlife Fund will receive an additional payment from the landowner."
The real issue is that the people who speculatively bought the land (with an overage clause) are feeling badly hurt by the financial loss.
I would guess they are the ones making the most noise about the SDNP planning issues.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Local (11th Feb 2024 - 12:05:26)
Editor I agree with your post but I think there are a great deal of people in this community that support the development of this land. They were extremely upset at the sos bohunt manor people that were against the original development especially as some councillors were involved. If it had gone ahead before the boundaries were set then it would be a different kettle of fish. Going back to the beginning all the surveys consultation and the neighbourhood plan up to date have come out by a considerable margin for development on that land because it’s in the right place close to schools and amenities and the station and direct access to the A3 NOT going through the square.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Joe (11th Feb 2024 - 12:41:20)
No matter how often I re iterate on here about housing numbers, that is the reason local plans are made to tell the public how many new homes are needed in the coming decades. It has never been 600 for Liphook more like 100- 120 and has remained about that for the last 20 years. Do not forget we had a huge amount of new housing recently at Oak Park.
Please take no notice of the developers wish lists “ disappointed” if EHDC thought we needed that amount it would have happened by now. Do not buy into the developers hype.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Disappointed (11th Feb 2024 - 15:26:22)
Joe it doesn’t matter what quota we have if the developers plan meets all the regulations they must pass it . As you said oak park as an example we didn’t need all of those houses at the time about the same as know you still don’t seem to get it it’s not about quotas it’s about where is best to put houses in liphook. As I have said if you allow houses on the sites that EHDC have suggested it will open the floodgates. And then we are doomed no access to the A3 so complete gridlock in the square but EHDC don’t care.
Re: East Hampshire Local Plan - Public Consultation - Penny Williamson (12th Feb 2024 - 13:35:42)
Totally agree with Disappointed when she/she says "why is it a body like the national parks people can set a boundary through the middle of a community right alongside a conservation area that completely ruins are Parrish." The lines drawn by the SDNP for not just Liphook but many other parishes in East Hampshire were ill thought out and not very intelligent. It is worth remembering that at the time some councillors on the Bramshott and Liphook PC lobbied for these proposed boundaries and campaigned vigorously. I remember a couple of councillors handing out leaflets supporting this at Sainsburys one of which I remember was Anna James.
