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Blue badge bays Liphook station - H (4th Mar 2024  16:31:48) Can the lady who owns the coffee cart please discourage her customers from parking in the only 2 blue badge bays at the Railway station. All standing around chatting with her with not a consideration for anyone else. Whilst convenient for a coffee and a nice long chat it is NOT convenient nor safe for disabled rail users when trying to offload our wheelchair on a ramp in the middle of the road.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Bemused (4th Mar 2024  17:04:14) If they are blocking the disabled bays or parking in them illegally then surely a quiet word would you mind moving please as I need to park would be the way.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - PR (4th Mar 2024  17:45:03) I suggest you try the popular phrase in the USA " Have my Parking Space - Have my disability " Can make some feel quite small. Yes, I have a disability.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Richard (4th Mar 2024  19:19:14) Hi H, maybe a silly suggestion but have you considered discussing the issue with the nice coffee lady? She’s clearly not responsible for customers using the spaces incorrectly but I’m sure she’d be happy to guide any naughty people who park up without a limp or wheelchair and try to purchase a coffee! Have people really lost the ability to engage with each other and instead post here where the coffee lady may never see it and nothing will ever change.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Graham (4th Mar 2024  20:29:55) Christine who runs the coffee van is lovely and would be mortified if anyone was permanently blocking a parking bay. Why not pull up alongside and politely ask and I am sure her customers would immediately move their car for you.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Sam (4th Mar 2024  21:15:46) As if the coffee lady is going to make her first interaction with a potential customer in "you cant park there mate" Its not the coffee lady's remit or responsibility to police the bays, stop inferring it is, plus in a cost of living crisis she is hardly going to open an interaction with that conversation. We all have signs, we all know the rules, but frankly we don't give a toss anymore as its too expensive for the muppets we vote in to enforce, now we are expected to police ourselves, there is no punishment anymore so people will take the piss.... there isn't even Police around here anymore. 15 years from now this wont be England, it will be New Delhi, and I don't mean that as any disrespect to the good people of New Delhi I mean in as the state their own government turns a blind eye and spends nothing. The poor get poorer and the rich get richer whilst the enforcement only applies to the Rich. We are all letting it happen, this is England you know, in history its going to be the biggest fall from grace ever recorded. Daily Mail 1 us nil

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Richard (4th Mar 2024  22:31:11) It’s a simple sign of the times and people’s arrogance. I popped into McDonalds last week for lunch. I was looking out of window around lunchtime and three cars pulled in simultaneously (with ladders on the roofs) and parked in the three disabled bays by the front door. The three male drivers got out with their gelled back hair and very distinctive accent's(would you like your drive done love). They were the most rude and ignorant individuals I have came across in quite sometime with every other word being f this and f that. They really lived up to their reputation!

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - H (5th Mar 2024  00:43:48) Her van is parked next to the blue badge bays. Her customers are using the blue badge bays to pull up alongside her van and socialise over a coffee. Next time we'll just park behind and block them in then! No effort was made to move the cars, everyone just looked on as we struggled. Email sent to SWR as they own the car park .

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Richard (5th Mar 2024  09:12:14) Surely in this age of equality where we’re all equal regardless of appearances. Disabled, parent, obese or any other different type of parking space is a little old fashioned. It’s as though we’re allowing some of the population to be treated differently when they want to be viewed the same as us all but that seems very selective at times when it suits, from what I am witnessing.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Bemused (5th Mar 2024  10:19:46) Still bemused H . If you wanted to park and unload and leave your car then you should have spoken to the people and explained that you needed to park to leave your car . But if you just needed to unload you could do that anywhere right in front of the station can’t understand why you had so much hassle.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Local (5th Mar 2024  14:57:00) Yes seems a bit funny why you struggle as said you can unload anywhere in the station for court then park in the disabled bays.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - H (5th Mar 2024  14:59:10) Bemused I don't have to explain myself to anyone! Don't park in or block or obsruct blue badge bays. Simple!! The attitude of everyone on here towards disabled people is absolutely disgusting. Liphook really is the pits. I despair.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - H (5th Mar 2024  16:48:48) "Local" I am not unloading a delivery of goods ?! We are talking about getting a disabled child in an electric wheelchair from a side opening adapted vehicle with a hoist onto the station forecourt SAFELY. Hence why we have a Blue badge !! We do not have to explain ourselves to selfish people who have zero empathy. As long as you're alright jack ! Am I seriously reading these responses correctly? If you care to see an example of what I'm talking about, go look on the Coffee Vans Facebook page. There's even customers sat in chairs IN THE DISABLED BAYS . photos of which I have sent to SWR along with a formal complaint.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Bemused (5th Mar 2024  16:54:04) Sorry H only trying to help thought you probably didn’t know you could unload anywhere outside the station. You are quite right they should NOT be obstructing the bays and you would be in your right to talk to them. As for liphook being the pits I have lived here for 80 years and found it to be a very accommodating place with so much to do especially for the elderly and an amazing volunteer force.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Richard (5th Mar 2024  18:09:50) Hi H, don’t forget that not all disabilities are visible. Just because you have wheelchair doesn’t give you priority over other non disabled people and getting their coffee fix. Again can I point out the wasting of everyone’s energy here, a simple conversation with the station staff and the coffee lady would have probably resolved your issue. Instead you’re exerting your energy’s and time posting anonymously on Liphook Talkback and only frustrating yourself even more. Learn to talk to people and resolve your problems locally face to face. Appreciate you’ve probably spent a lot of your time form filling given your circumstances but being a keyboard warrior is not always the best way forward in resolving conflict.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Jen (5th Mar 2024  18:11:33) To be fair, the photo of someone sitting on a chair in front of the disabled parking bay was posted in 2020, during the time of Covid restrictions. It's quite possible (likely?) that no trains were actually running on that day.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - H (5th Mar 2024  21:14:04) Richard. Having a blue badge gives me priority to park in a blue badge bay. That is what they're designed for! Where did I say that I have priority over other disabilities?? Anyone with a blue badge can park in a blue badge bay! People who are popping in for coffee and a chat WITHOUT displaying a blue badge CANNOT. What is so difficult to understand? I am fully aware that not all disabilities are visible! Perhaps you should yourself bear this in mind when judging others as you have done in previous posts, "disabled when it suits" I believe were you words. What on earth is wrong with everyone on here .

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Joe (5th Mar 2024  23:17:16) H I do think you are right and sorry you have been given stick over this. Disabled bays are not to park in while getting a cup of coffee. They should remain free for those with a blue badge that is all H wants. It is unfortunate that the coffee van is adjacent to the bays. I do not know if there is any where else the van could park but the disabled bays are there for a good reason.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Ian (6th Mar 2024  08:02:33) The Coffee Van is placed where the railway station authorities have allowed it to be positioned. Once again small minded individuals are looking to cast stones at local businesses and somehow attach responsibility of the misbehaviour of the general public onto the business owner or staff. In this case they are coffee sellers not parking enforcement

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Local (6th Mar 2024  09:54:16) Well H looking at all of the responses I don’t think the coffee lady can be blamed. As you say you have a side loading vehicle so it must be very difficult to use in a bay because the bays are narrow not much room to unload sideways. You said to unload safely my thoughts were you could do that right outside the station very safely and then park in the disabled bay and if people were blocking the bay you could ask them to move. If there was an illegal car parked in a bay you could report it with a registration number. I have seen disabled vehicles that have rear ramps with a sign saying not to park to close so they can use the ramps which is a good idea. Sorry you are having such a problem.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Joe (6th Mar 2024  10:24:21) Thank you for the insult Ian I was only trying to show sympathy for a mother with a disabled son and a wheelchair to park at the station. I was not trying to blame the coffee van.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - H (6th Mar 2024  11:15:38) Local -The yellow hatchings either side of each bay are there for vehicles like mine which require a wider space for side access ♿ to vehicles or for people who need more room generally to access their vehicles. Jen - my reference to the photos was to give example about the blatant disregard for disabled blue badge holders. And if they were taken during COVID restrictions then that's even worse! But that's another story entirely. SWR put these spaces in for their disabled customers to load/unload safely. Not for Joe bloggs to get his morning coffee. If you had a child with retts who was fully dependent on you to keep them safe while transporting them in their powered chair along with oxygen tank and everything else that comes with keeping them alive would you be happy to "offload" them anywhere on the station forecourt and then abandon them while you go fight for a normal parking space in the car park ? I have a blue badge for a reason! The only small minded people casting stones are the majority of ignorant & judgemental people responding on here. Why should I have to drive to Haslemere station to use their unobstructed facilities. What was the point in spending all that money on the new lifts at liphook when blue badge holders can't sodding park to use them ! Joe - thanks for the support ♿ We now drive to Haslemere to catch the train to Portsmouth.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Jen (6th Mar 2024  13:47:07) Sorry, I'm confused now. Why is it "even worse" if the photos were taken during the pandemic? 🤔 My point was that if there were no trains actually running, then nobody would have needed to park at the station anyway. It's easy to forget what strange times we were living in at that time.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Joe (6th Mar 2024  14:45:36) I think H was making the point that if there were no trains and it were during lockdown then the customers of the coffee van sitting around nearby were not meant to be go outdoors to buy takeaway coffee’s and socialise -we were meant to only go outdoors to take exercise or do essential food shopping. I remember people being fined and moved out of London parks for sitting around.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Local (6th Mar 2024  14:53:19) Have had a look at the bays at the station yes I see they have blue pathways ether side 3 bays. If the only bay left was the one next to the coffee van and people were standing in it and would not move or an illegal car then you have the right to complain to the railway. I cannot believe that people would not move for someone to park beggars belief if that’s the case I’m with you they would have had an ear full.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - PR (6th Mar 2024  15:59:07) I cannot believe the vitriolic comments made towards the original poster. Shame on you all. Is this representative of Liphook's population ? As in my earlier posting - Have my Parking Space - Have my Disability.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - AF (9th Mar 2024  14:56:34) Just to correct some people on here. During COVID trains ran everyday, about 60% of normal levels. I was working in London as normal and used them. I was the only passenger on some trains.

Re: Blue badge bays Liphook station - Sam (10th Mar 2024  20:16:17) PR, if the original poster hadn’t started her post with “Can the lady who owns the coffee cart please” then the thread might have gone a different direction. The coffee lady isn’t doing anything wrong yet it’s her that gets thrown under the bus, parking is also NOT the coffee lady’s remit. So sadly, the original poster has come out swinging for an innocent party makes it’s that innocent party’s fault then am afraid its fair game whatever the original poster gets. Don’t throw s*** unless your able to take s*** had the original post been concise and direct about the offenders then fine, but dropping an innocent business bystander into the mix isn’t going to wash here

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