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Covid 19
- Anon (22nd Jun 2024 - 03:09:57)

Covid has not gone away entirely unfortunately, I have it and I know of at least five others who also have contracted it in Liphook and Bramshott. The summer weather hasn't helped with lower than normal temperatures but just be aware especially young and old and wear a mask if you get it and have to go out

Re: Covid 19
- AF (22nd Jun 2024 - 08:03:58)

It may not have gone away but lets remember it's not particularly dangerous, i would put money on the fact the you and your 5 friends who have it will all get better.
So no need for masks just get on with life.

Re: Covid 19
- Joe (22nd Jun 2024 - 09:04:30)

AF if covid is still around then so are people that may get very seriously ill even from a mild strain. If a person has a very low immune system for example then it is not good advice to tell them covid is not dangerous for them.

Re: Covid 19
- AF (22nd Jun 2024 - 13:52:44)

Joe - I take your point that people with a compromised immune system are more at risk than others from COVID, but they are more at risk from any other virus.
People have been panicked by the media about COVID since 2020. We need to get a grip and realise is nothing more than a nasty little flu bug and most will be fine.
In 2020 when the first and most dangerous variant came out the mortality rate was under 0.5% with virtually no treatment.
I've had it twice, the first time early on with the first variant and i was very ill but recovered as almost all people do.
I won't be wearing a mask or anything else and will be carrying on as normal.

Re: Covid 19
- Ian (22nd Jun 2024 - 15:40:44)

AF, you were a selfish so and so during the worst of the pandemic! Your attitude and influence on other deniers probably contributed to local deaths.

Re: Covid 19
- Sue (22nd Jun 2024 - 19:08:19)

A complex issue, but we're now in position to have learnt some valuable lessons.
Summarised in a simple slogan:

Do NOT restrict the rest, protect the vulnerable, do NOT restrict the rest.

Re: Covid 19
- Kw (22nd Jun 2024 - 20:15:05)

Waste of time wearing them

Re: Covid 19
- Zoe (23rd Jun 2024 - 09:32:32)

COVID has been classified the same as the flu.ask yourself if
you panic if you get flu.
Your mind and body is in flight or flight fear mode due to the brainwashing you received from 2020-2023 due to all the propaganda that was made about COVID.
The government have even admitted to this.
So do your worse by trolling me.

You need to reprogram your mind and body to not have the fear response trigger you.

I said on here and face to face with people when this all started in 2020 that we weren't being told the truth. That everyone should do their homework and research. But I was abused and bullied off this site.
I was proven right. I did my research.

When does this all stop, is up to every individual. If you like being in fight or flight mode then you will continue to get triggered. If you can accept that COVID is no worse than flu. Then you will be able to move on and eventually think of it like the strain of flu it always was.

Yes I will be trolled on here for writing this . I've had worse in 2020-2023 so it doesn't bother me.

If you have had 1 or more vaccines you have a weakened immune system . That's why you are ill and will possibly continue to be ill.The sooner people accept that they have weaken their immune systems by taking a experimental treatment the soon they will be able to start healing themselves. The more you dwell on your illness or panic about COVID the more you will attract it to yourself.

I know this isn't what a lot of people want to hear. But it's what is happening. You and only you can stop the trigger you feel in your mind and bodies muscle memory.

Re: Covid 19
- Ian (23rd Jun 2024 - 11:29:27)

227,000.

Re: Covid 19
- Sam (23rd Jun 2024 - 11:45:42)

“I did my research” the line that tells you that person is an expert in their field.

Re: Covid 19
- Zoe (23rd Jun 2024 - 11:53:09)

Ian

How many of these people already had a terminal illness or another type of illness that would have contributed to them sadly passing away. You aren't telling the whole story you are just posting a number to scare people.

More people are dying from various cancers , brain tumours, kidney failure, myocardial heart failure or suicide due to having the vaccines ,than died of COVID itself.

Personally I don't know of anyone who died of COVID during 2020-2024.
But I know plenty of people who have died from pancreatic Cancer, myocardial heart problems, heart attack, kidney disease or brain tumors since 2020 to date.


Re: Covid 19
- PR (23rd Jun 2024 - 11:54:57)

1)

Woman walking around Sainsbury's yesterday lunchtime wearing a mask, only over her mouth !!!

2)

I have a compromised immune system. My specialist at the RSCH asked me during the pandemic how many Covid vaccinations I'd had to which I replied two. His response Do NOT have any more.

Re: Covid 19
- Zoe (23rd Jun 2024 - 12:18:54)

Sam

Maybe you need a refresher of what research means.

1: Careful study of a given subject, field, or problem, undertaken to discover facts or principles.

2:An act or period of such study.
"her researches of medieval parish records."

3: Diligent inquiry or examination in seeking facts or principles; laborious or continued search after truth.
"researches of human wisdom; to research a topic in the library; medical research.

You DO NOT have to be a expert to research things.
There are plenty of respectable qualified persons who do all sorts of research.
There are plenty of children who research for exams.
Many people research to qualify in various things.
You don't have to be a professional already to do research.

It's a Shame the media doesn't do research before they interview someone these days. They may do better interviews if they did.

When people troll you. They usually do so because they want a reaction out of you. So this was my reply.

Re: Covid 19
- AR (23rd Jun 2024 - 15:22:08)

Absolutely spot on Zoe. Unfortunately until the BBC and the goverment start telling the truth people will not listen. Andrew Bridgen is stoically bringing it up in parliament, but is heckled. When it does get discussed it will be the biggest horror the world has seen.
People fell for the vaccine hype and now are becoming ill. Has anybody noticed the amount of sirens everyday now ?
The gene therapy " vaccine " was never trialled. and is causing immense problems. People just blindly believed what they were told and never questioned it.
Some of us had a gut feeling about it and didn't take it, thank God.
Questioning the Doctors surgery I asked if the vector of the flu vaccine was mRNA, and was told they didn't know. Extremely worrying.
It was always a flu like virus and we cope every year with that.
It is about time the people were told the truth.

Re: Covid 19
- AF (23rd Jun 2024 - 18:04:15)

Well done Zoe and AR. You're absolutely right COVID is no worse than Flu, it comes from the same family.
The media are to blame for scaring people, they went to a COVID ward and said this person died, they didn't mention the other 20 people in the ward who recovered.
The famous 227,000 thousand that died is deeply misleading, the figure is for people who died and had COVID NOT who died of COVID. If i had a test and was positive and then got run over by a bus and killed i would be a COVID death.

Re: Covid 19
- Sandra (23rd Jun 2024 - 19:57:58)

The Astra Zeneca has already been withdrawn due to side effects including clots. Pfizer will be next. Rishi Sunak has already downgraded, in Parliament, the experimental MRNA jabs to 'Safe' from 'Safe and Effective' - why would you continue to have MRNA jabs, if they are not even effective!

I predict that we are facing a Chernobyl type moment as the lies of the regime over the decades have led to this disaster - excess deaths and disabilities are through the roof!

Re: Covid 19
- Sue (23rd Jun 2024 - 21:34:45)

We know that governments have misspent taxpayers' money on the pandemic on an apocalyptic scale.
We know those suppliers have benefited from supplying services/equipment that were surplus to actual need.

We say 'public' hysteria and 'media' peddling panic. But let's follow the money.
Who is still benefitting from the COVID phobia? Testing industry )laboratories, factories, traders)? Pharmaceuticals (medications, "vaccines" etc)?
OUR NHS is part of this enormous money mechanism that does us, end users, no good.

Re: Covid 19
- AR (24th Jun 2024 - 12:53:29)

It heartens me to see that people are finally realising the horror that has befallen us but take no joy in knowing so many were vaccinated.
This situation must be talked about to force the goverment and medical services to realise what they have done.
I would say a lot of us have known of someone who has died or been extemely ill, and for anyone to think it is a coincidence is denying the facts.
Anthony Fauci has admitted the vaccine never prevented covid and also admitted the rules were all made up. The world was conned.
Where do we go from here ?

Re: Covid 19
- passfield resident (24th Jun 2024 - 13:31:48)

AR-please could you post Anthony Fauci's exact words-I haven't seen them

Re: Covid 19
- D (24th Jun 2024 - 14:37:11)

The pandemic is over but the anti-vaccers are still pushing their poison on social media. So what was the objective of this "big con"?

Re: Covid 19
- AR (24th Jun 2024 - 14:43:35)

Dr. Anthony Fauci, former Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, testifies during a House Select Subcommittee on the Coronavirus pandemic at Capitol Hill, Monday, June 3, 2024, in Washington. (AP Photo/Mariam Zuhaib)

Dr. Anthony Fauci told members of Congress that the COVID guidelines he preached in 2020 had no scientific support.
NICOLE RUSSELL USA TODAY

REVEALED: Dr. Anthony Fauci confesses he 'made up' covid rules including 6 feet social distancing and masking kids
Fauci said he does not know where the six foot social distancing rule came from
He also said that he was unaware of studies recommending masks for kids
READ MORE: Republicans demand Dr. Fauci's private emails and phone records
By JON MICHAEL RAASCH, POLITICAL REPORTER IN WASHINGTON, D.C., FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 15:52, 2 June 2024 | UPDATED: 20:50, 3 June 2024

Re: Covid 19
- passfield resident (24th Jun 2024 - 15:18:52)

AR-those aren't his exact words -you are reporting on the content of articles in the media. What he said can no doubt be interpreted in different ways according to your own views.

Re: Covid 19
- Zoe (24th Jun 2024 - 15:51:49)

Why with all the evidence out there do people still call us anti - vaxxers.

It's because these same people bullied those of us who didn't believe the brainwashing, lies and propaganda.

Now there is plenty of evidence from Fauci, world governments, WEF , world health organisation and research. These same people who were brainwashed by the propaganda still would rather believe that they are right. They would rather believe the lies than apologize for their inhumane behaviour to those who you call anti- vaxxers than admit they were wrong.

It's a frightening realisation that these brainwashed lied to people could well have damaged their health. They may well feel ok at present but they keep taking the vaccines as they have been programmed to do over the last 3 years and have no idea what damage they are doing long term to their health.
The illnesses they have developed from 2020- present , couldn't possibly be from a experimental vaccine. When they finally wake up ( if they ever do) it's probably going to be to late as the damage was done in 2020-2023.

These people will take no responsibility for the health problems they have caused for themselves. It's easier to project their fears on to those who chose not to have any vaccinations than it is to face the facts that you were brainwashed and lied to and now have a uncertain future because you have no idea what damage these vaccines have done long term.
They don't want to acknowledge that they were in a mass experiment which is still on going and will be for years to come.

So they will find fault and pick holes in facts as they don't want to face what's happened.
They feel stupid for falling for the brainwashing, lies and propaganda so they find other way to justify their behaviour and choices.

At the end of the day everyone had a choice and made the best one for themselves and or their families. Now everyone needs to find away to live with the choices they made and stop projecting their fear on to others.

Re: Covid 19
- M (24th Jun 2024 - 16:25:28)

Zoe you say:
"At the end of the day everyone had a choice and made the best one for themselves and or their families. Now everyone needs to find away to live with the choices they made and stop projecting their fear on to others."
So take some of your own medicine (no pun intended) and let everyone make up their own minds as to what's best for them, and keep quiet yourself.

Re: Covid 19
- Zoe (24th Jun 2024 - 16:45:17)

M

Thank you I am happy to let everyone live with the choices they made. Other wise I wouldn't have said it.
I have no problem with others choices.they can take as many vaccines and destroy their health as much as they like.
What I said will trigger a lot of people .
I do have a problem with people not taking responsibility for the choices they made.
Maybe now the anti- vaxxers bullying will stop.
We took responsibility for not taking the vaccines.
We have taken 4 years of bullying so far.
When does the anti- vaxxers bullying stop.

Re: Covid 19
- passfield resident (24th Jun 2024 - 17:07:45)

Zoe-if you quietly chose not to have the vaccine and didn't go on about it online nobody would be able to "bully" you. If you keep arguing about it people will reply with their own views. What do you think of other vaccines, like MMR, for instance?

Re: Covid 19
- D (24th Jun 2024 - 17:09:55)

Interesting, Zoe, how the anti-vaccers who bombarded us with your propaganda on websites such as this not so long ago are now claiming YOU are victims of bullying. No one bullied you, they just didn't listen to you.

Re: Covid 19
- AR (24th Jun 2024 - 17:22:01)

Passfield resident, I would assume you would go check the pieces yourself. He told Congress that the COVID guidelines he preached in 2020 had no scientific support.
Look up the video with Ms Greene in Congress

youtube.com/watch?v=W8AU5NFTDfg

Re: Covid 19
- AR (24th Jun 2024 - 17:30:51)

Well done D for your inspirtional input to a very serious problem. What a piece of nugget ( anti-vaccers ) If you are happy with your vaccine I am happy for you, but do not belittle those who figured that an untested gene therapy might be a problem.
I am glad you have such faith in the human race. Unfortunately as history shows sometimes people are not up front or can be danmn well evil.
There are plenty of people who wished they hadn't taken it as it never stopped transmission or never stopped you getting "covid"

Re: Covid 19
- passfield resident (24th Jun 2024 - 19:21:46)

I just watched the video where he is harangued by Ms Greene who is grandstanding for her own political purposes. To suggest that is useful evidence in a debate about covid or vaccines is ridiculous. He isn't able to answer her "questions" for her shouting him down.Make an argument-this is similar to people who quote the Daily Mail (they are a bit quiet just at the moment).

Re: Covid 19
- D (24th Jun 2024 - 21:00:50)

AF I am very happy with the (I think five now) vaccines I've had. So there's no reason why insidious left wing subversives like you and Zoe shouldn't be. You are both on a crusade to nowhere fighting for people who don't want fighting for anyway.

Re: Covid 19
- Zoe (25th Jun 2024 - 08:25:54)

D

You really were scratching at the bottom of the insults barrel this time.

left wing subversives ,thank you that made me laugh.

I am not a left wing subversives.
I am also not a right wing, racist, transphobic or a football hooligan because I'm white English woman. As the media would label me at present.

I am just me.

Re: Covid 19
- Anon (26th Jun 2024 - 21:12:19)

Oh dear, little did I know that a little info would develop into a verbal pandemic from Zoe and AR

Re: Covid 19
- D (26th Jun 2024 - 22:02:07)

Anon, thankyou for the information, I was ill for over a month earlier this year and I do wonder if that was covid. Some of the contributions following yours are exactly the same as those same individuals were trotting out during the pandemic. I took no notice of them then and I take no notice of them now.

Re: Covid 19
- Joe (27th Jun 2024 - 08:33:31)

No one is bullying you Zoe you put your views out there. Yes I knew people who died of covid, it did kill a lot of people worldwide and yes some people do die of flue if their immune system is weak or they have another condition so to airily dismiss it as only like flue is disrespectful to those who died of it. We should have done more, earlier to stop it spreading when fatalities from it were reported in Europe. We are an island after all.

Re: Covid 19
- Nobby (27th Jun 2024 - 09:16:57)

The vaccine was not to stop you getting it , it was there to decrease the severity of it .

We are lucky in UK we still have a choice to take or not take the vaccine , everyone has there own thoughts on it .
For me as knackered immune system and getting covid twice I am glad with out it 99% sure I would not be here.

Just because somebody has a different idea/ thought doesnt make them wrong

Read what they say THINK about the reply in a polite manner.

Treat others how you would like to be treated ,quite simple idea really

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