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Timpsons Pod Refusal - Jon (19th Jul 2024 - 13:10:00) EHDC has refused planning for the pod & signage. (From EHDC website, decided 18/07/24). The Planning Authority REFUSES Planning Permission for the following reason(s): 1. The ancillary retail pod by virtue of its siting is considered a dominant feature upon entry to the site and it is considered that the pod appears out of place and incongruous in this location. There is no landscaping to soften the impact on the pod and the pod is bulky and not considered sympathetic to the setting or reflect the built form of the surrounding development. Overall the pod does not make a positive contribution to the overall appearance of the area, contrary to Policy CP29 of the East Hampshire District Local Plan: Joint Core Strategy, and the provisions of the NPPF. The Planning Authority REFUSES Advertisement Consent for the following reason(s): 1. It is concluded that the advertising signage by reason of their size, siting,form, illumination and prominent location would unacceptably detract from the visual amenity of the area and appear visually incongrouous and imposing in their setting and be contrary to Policy CP29 of the East Hampshire District Local Plan: Joint Core Strategy, Saved Policy HE3 of the EHDLP:Second Review, the requirements of the Advertisement Regulations and the Council's adopted advertisement guidelines. Guessing Sainsbury's will probably appeal this.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - M (19th Jul 2024 - 16:58:55) That's the right decision for the right reasons. I feel vindicated for bringing this to the attention of Liphook Talkback, big business running rough shot over planning laws. Don't forget that "James Timpson" is now a Lord with political influence thanks to Sir Kier Starmer, so that just shows that all Politicians, no matter their colour, believe in one law for them and one law for others. It might be Sainsburys who have applied for permission, and been refused, but it's at the behest of Timpsons, and ultimately it's owner. Just because he does "good deeds" doesn't mean he shouldn't follow the rules..... in fact considering he employs ex offenders he should be doubly conscious of the laws of the land. Hopefully EHDC will take enforcement action and get the Pod removed, either permanently or to a much more suitable position.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - Pb (19th Jul 2024 - 17:50:02) Good for local business.. Sainsburys have gone ahead without permission and need to be pegged back...

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - C (19th Jul 2024 - 19:35:54) It’s interesting isn’t it. Sewage is being poured into seas and rivers. Nearly 39,000 people have died in Gaza. Animal cruelty is on the rise. A quarter of all schoolchildren are on free school meals. Climate change is irreparably damaging our planet. An insane meglomaniac (and convicted criminal) is poised to be the leader of the free world again….Our NHS is on its knees. Can’t say a Timpsons kiosk in a supermarket car park is keeping me up at night but hey, each to their own.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - Grape (19th Jul 2024 - 21:40:45) @C Just because this is a local Liphook forum that should be concerned about local issues such as violation of planning regulations - does not mean you can spout out a string of irrelevant international fallacies. Your Gaza nonsense: Precisely what real authority counted 39,000? Killed precisely by whom? How many of them were murderous combatants? Let's say 39,000 to keep you happy. 39,000 and still the Palestinians (backed by Iran and Labour) would not lay down arms, and would not release the hostages. Yes, the Gaza people need to be freed from their leadership. Take that to your Free Palestine hypocritic hate march. The most extreme, unaffordable and impoverishing action UK could ever take on carbon emissions would never make a dent on the global trend. Take up your fight with China, India and the Third World and then you could call yourself a somewhat less misguided climate warrior. The NHS is broken, pouring more money would only aggravate that trend. Same goes to "free" school meals. NHS money and school meals money is NOT free. You might be on to something with the sewage pollution. No idea what substance there is for your obscure claim regarding animal cruelty. Start another thread if you like, a good name would be 'Confusing misinformation irrelevant to Liphook'. But this one is a local thread, on a local chat that brings up more substantiated claims than your irrelevant untruths.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - C (20th Jul 2024 - 08:14:50) @Grape. I would type out a full reply but alas am too tired after having spent all night awake worrying about the Timpsons kiosk.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - D (20th Jul 2024 - 09:18:16) C, I too am tired having been up all night worrying about the Timpson shed (I'm hoping it may be for sale, we'll see) so I'll only address some of your points. Gaza, had they not attacked Israel in the first place, these deaths would not be happening. Gaza declared war, Gaza is the aggressor, please don't try and convince us they are the victim. A quarter of children are on free school meals? All the families I know who claim free school meals all have parents who smoke a lot, have huge expensive televisions, and guess what? They don't work, not they can't work, they don't. Maybe parents re-evaluating their priorities might bring the number of free school meals claimants down. A lunatic about to lead the free world? He didn't do a bad job last time. What in your opinion makes him a lunatic? Holding out the hand of friendship to North Korea? Defending his own borders against an endless line of immigrants walking straight into his country and depriving hard working tax payers access to public services and housing? Nothing wrong in that.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - J (20th Jul 2024 - 09:44:42) Back to the Timpsons pod... I wonder what happens now? I guess they will appeal the decision. I don't have an issue with it particularly (I mean it's in a supermarket carpark anyway) but I've always thought it was the wrong side of the zebra crossing in the car park anyway as it means pedestrians heading towards Sainsburys are not seen by car drivers until they pop out from behind it or peer around it to check for traffic. Maybe they will move it and get approval?

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - D (20th Jul 2024 - 10:01:06) Interesting how this business apparently operating without the relevant permissions hasn't produced the bitterness which was aimed at the Longmoor Road layby mechanics. Maybe Liphook sees middle class businessman operating without the relevant permissions more favourably than working class businessmen.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - Local (20th Jul 2024 - 10:43:10) I think it’s gone of thread a bit . The obvious thing is the pod is situated illegally. If any other business in the village did a similar thing ie hang a flag out or put a sign up or something they would be jumped on very quickly that’s the point. Sainsburys have broken the law and in my opinion it’s an inappropriate building stuck right there. Same as them allowing the camper van to park on their property any one else would be taken to task ie travelers sites etc . One law for one and another for everyone else.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - M (20th Jul 2024 - 10:54:18) C... I take it all the things you mention are keeping you awake at night? Can assure you that Timpsons Pod in no way keeps me awake at night, and definitely all the left leaning rhetoric you spout doesn't either. I was told to always concern myself with the things you can influence, worrying about a conflict thousands of miles away and an election that we have no vote on is ridiculous in my opinion, but your choice if you want to worry about it. As a local resident I can have an opinion on this situation and I have the opportunity to voice it and make my views known to the relevant authority, thankfully they agreed with me but we'll wait and see what happens to the illegally sited Pod now, knowing Sainsburys and Timpsons they will appeal and do nothing, having already traded from the place all year taking business away from local enterprises.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - Grape (20th Jul 2024 - 10:57:15) Here here Local. I agree regarding off-topic dribble by C, and agree that to me it appears the planning laws have been unevenly applied on this kiosk, if so then it is very unjust.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - AF (20th Jul 2024 - 16:35:15) I agree that the pod is in the wrong place it should be next to the shop, it is in both Alton and Farnham. Also Timpsons could set up in the old cafe area no permission needed. And lastly if you are doing something that needs permission should you not get the permission first.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - Ian (20th Jul 2024 - 17:49:05) Oh C, you’re so virtuous. I’m humbled and from now on, I will just look at the world beyond Liphook

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - A local (20th Jul 2024 - 22:39:27) Actually comparisons and the liberal use of similes are fairly well recognised tools of speech, it's fairly standard to say 'with all going on in the world...' when referencing something fairly minor that everybody is getting het up about, similarly 'in the great scheme of things...' Sure, the pod has failed planning and should be resited, but it didn't operate illegally, because it utilised the planning system exactly as the system is set up to operate, you can apply for planning at any time either before, during or after build, if they didn't want you to be able to make those choices, they wouldn't enshrine those processes in law. Beyond the look and prominent location of the pod which could be rectified, I wonder, is it anything to do with the owners liberal outlook and especially his willingness to give so many of those who have erred a second chance that has worried the villagers, if so I'm thinking people should maybe 'get out more' because 'its a big world out there' and 'a lot worse happens at sea!!'

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - C (21st Jul 2024 - 09:26:20) I’m now losing sleep over “D” thinking Trump didn’t do a bad job first time around…Impossible to even begin to form a response to that. What a time to be alive. Gotta go. Heading to Timpsons to get some keys cut.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - Local (21st Jul 2024 - 10:02:56) So C you don’t support local businesses then the shop in station road cuts keys and probably is having tuff time because of Timpsons never mind another shop will close.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - Grape (21st Jul 2024 - 10:55:08) Woke people hate local culture if the majority are white, slightly traditional people. They view our local concerns as: Racist, imperialist and generally backward. They happily put internationalism before home affairs. They also tend to occasionally be delicate snowflakes who become traumatised by reality and demand paid time off work (if they work) to recover. How well would C fit into that misguided crowd?

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - C (22nd Jul 2024 - 10:33:39) All accurate (and proudly so) Grape. Apart from the paid time off. Work 45 hours per week and not had a sick day since 2021.

Re: Timpsons Pod Refusal - Paul2 (22nd Jul 2024 - 13:03:48) C and others who hold similar views are the product of a generation trained as activists. They have been prepared by our educational institutions and woke organisations, who have convinced them that everything about their culture and country is bad and to be ashamed off. Activists don't need facts - mere feelings are enough to trigger them. They dismiss fact as lies. It doesn't matter what triggers them - they are prepared to be incandescently enraged and spring into angry demonstration. Ah, the tolerant left! What's laughable is that the 'cause' is irrelevant to them. It could be the politics of a rogue state 5,000 miles away. A TikTok reel misinforming about history 600 years ago. The plight of frogs. Meat Someone identifying as a furball. They are unthinking, mentally vacant drones. You just wind them up, and off they go!

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