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Labour Success - AF (16th Aug 2024 - 17:02:41) Well i think we need to thank the Labour Party. They've taken away the Fuel payment from 80% of pensioners some on limited means, and then used some of that money to give train drivers who already earn over £60,000 a 15% pay increase. Way to go Labour. I can't wait for the next bit of labour genius.

Re: Labour Success - Pensioner (16th Aug 2024 - 17:32:25) Told you so . You just wait they will screw everyone that works hard and give it to the lazy Bs public service workers first in the queue.

Re: Labour Success - PR (16th Aug 2024 - 17:57:37) I imagine if the press reports are true it will be the total abolition of free prescriptions - absolutely genius - all ill people and loads of the elderly who have not died from ' Heat or Eat' syndrome will fade away, thus relieving financial pressure on the treasury and the NHS. Happy Days ....

Re: Labour Success - Sam (16th Aug 2024 - 19:04:51) Doesn’t matter who is in power, the country is broke, it’s like attempting to feed a thousand people on a 3 quid budget. Our own citizens are too lazy or under qualified to manage a local cafe. Whomever is in power is doomed to fail, so far labour are only 2 months into their set of failures, this means they are 13 years and 10 months ahead of the previous clowns whom failed, and lied for 14 years. Welcome to politics, it’s 4 years to the next general election, if your a pensioner then a lot of you might not be around to vote again anyway, so taking your heating payments away is a calculated gamble. Perhaps you should have worked harder in life instead of relying on the failed state to get you through retirement. Perhaps you should have re thought the damage to the economy you contributed to by voting to leave the EU as well, for that is one of the reasons the country is broke

Re: Labour Success - Pensioner (16th Aug 2024 - 19:40:38) Here you go again Sam talking complete rubbish. The pensioners worked hard for their retirement while you were in nappy’s. The country was handed over to labour in a very strong place or don’t you read about it far better than the EU even Germany have to admit we are far ahead in our economy so Labour are telling porkys sam catch up .

Re: Labour Success - D (17th Aug 2024 - 08:25:04) The money to feed schoolchildren during the school holidays has to come from somewhere. The money to fund the disability benefits of 700,000 schoolchildren with a mental illness (source:- The Resolution Foundation) has to come from somewhere. Money and care is being stripped from the pensioners to pay for a record one in five 15 year olds with a mental disability of one form or another. Yet we carry on as if having a child with a mental illness is some sort of social achievement.

Re: Labour Success - AF (17th Aug 2024 - 10:09:27) Interesting that Sam our local mouthpiece for the labour party is admitting that 2 months in Labour are failing.

Re: Labour Success - Realist (17th Aug 2024 - 10:42:33) Well all you people that voted Labour tighten your seat belts your in for a rough ride if you have any money look out they will grab it . It’s the same old story they inherited a good economy things on the up people in work keeping a cap on spending and bang labour opens the door to let the unions run riot huge wage rises. Public sector workers getting huge raises and working less WFH your having a laugh. The country was just getting on its feet balancing the books going forward we will be on our knees before the four years are up . Then who will pick up the pieces god knows.

Re: Labour Success - Simon (17th Aug 2024 - 11:27:15) "The country was handed over to labour in a very strong place" I think that's the biggest pile of rubbish I've ever read on this site.

Re: Labour Success - Joe (17th Aug 2024 - 12:37:28) No the economy was not in a good way- the Labour government would never have won so many seats from the conservatives in the recent election if so.

Re: Labour Success - Sam (18th Aug 2024 - 18:35:09) What’s most interesting isn’t the hot air and whinging about a political party, it’s actually that most citizens voted for one party and that party won… The End. As I said the country is broke, very tough decisions that won’t be fair to everyone will need to be made, as it’s stands as a country we can’t even manage the most basic task that all other countries have managed well and that is keeping our own s*** and p*** out of our rivers and seas. This green and pleasant land has lines of brown down its rivers and all around its coast. Laughing stock… a failed nation

Re: Labour Success - AF (20th Aug 2024 - 04:56:30) Sam - You are absolutely right the Labour party got the most votes and therefore are in power, which is quite right and how democracy works. However we have to mention that only 2 months in they are doing things that were not in the manifesto, and i do wonder if they had put in their manifesto we will cut the fuel payments to 80% of pensioners and spend lots of money to cave in to the rail unions with a big pay increase with no conditions. We also have to say that Kier got less votes than Corbyn. It would not be unfair to say Kier did not win the election but the conservatives lost the election, and their is a difference. I thought with how unpopular the conservatives had become that we would have 2 or 3 terms of Labour, however i think we my well have a 1 term government. The conservatives need to get a leader with a bit of charisma someone like Boris or Nigel Farage, and Kier will be soundly defeated.

Re: Labour Success - Oldie (20th Aug 2024 - 10:35:59) About right there A/F . Know the unions have taken over the Labour Party our So called Prime Minister is just a puppet. All we can look forward to is more and more strikes and more and more illegal immigrants coming to our country. Why is it that unelected people can run our country unions SHOULD not be involved in any government decisions. We are going backwards to the bad days when unions ruled they have become dinosaurs living in the past it’s time they were put out to grass . We are in for a very bad time under this government the young people thought the previous government was no good but they have not lived under a labour government perhaps they will learn the hard way.

Re: Labour Success - Jak (20th Aug 2024 - 14:28:23) Sam, Yes, the economy was in a bad way when Labour took over, nearly as bad as it was when they last left power. The Tories had an epidemic and a Russian/Ukraine war to contend with, Labour will wreck the economy by themselves. As for voting to leave the Franco/German empire being a contributory factor, what a load of garbage. Our economy was growing faster than Germany’s before the election. I doubt if Rachel Reeves and Keir Starmers parents will have to turn the heating down this winter.

Re: Labour Success - Realist (20th Aug 2024 - 15:09:28) Spot on JAK . We were just coming good showing the EU the way .

Re: Labour Success - Maz (20th Aug 2024 - 20:56:04) Spot on AF, well said. Sam you are out of touch.

Re: Labour Success - Truth (21st Aug 2024 - 10:52:33) Socialism is a philosophy of failure, the creed of ignorance, and the gospel of envy, its inherent virtue is the equal sharing of misery. - Winston Churchill

Re: Labour Success - Been there (21st Aug 2024 - 14:46:30) Well it’s come sooner than we expected the country is worse off than it was before the election. Complete useless Prime Minister, Chancellor, Foreign Secretary, and really all the cabinet have not got a clue how to run a country. The unions are having a field day they have half the Labour Party in their pay so they can demand what they like. It’s the same old story unfortunately the people that voted them in are too young to remember what it was like probably not born. And the older ones are brainwashed by the unions and the false promises by the Labour Party. Trouble is they are letting in so many illegal immigrants that will probably have the vote next time if they get their way. The country is in total down fall and will get worse. If you have any money keep it under the bed or the labour government will have it to pay for all the wage rises and migrants that will be on benefits.

Re: Labour Success - Sue (21st Aug 2024 - 18:51:34) All true @Been there. The youngsters who have no lived experience of the bad old Labour are too dismissive of learning from history, something they still could do for their own sake. Under this tyrannical government history will be sanitised and the knowledge gone forever. BTW, any suggestions on safer ways of holding on to one's hard-earned cash before Gov takes it off us?

Re: Labour Success - Been there (22nd Aug 2024 - 10:35:13) Sue think the only way is to join them by not working going on benefits and any money you have worked hard for hide it . Or join a union.

Re: Labour Success - James (22nd Aug 2024 - 15:46:55) The sooner the social welfare is restricted so only those who have paid in are able to benefit the better for all hard working people. My grandson was telling me at the weekend that some people stay on it and consciously use it instead of working! Unbelievable!

Re: Labour Success - Pete (23rd Aug 2024 - 08:33:44) How anyone can can have such a low opinion of the current government already after being repeatedly lied to, subject to countless manifesto pledges broken and generally being treated like idiots by the last one just goes to show how some are so entrenched in their positions that another government could; pay off the national debt, give out free energy and transport, fix all the potholes, cut the grass and it still wouldnt be enough. I have a novel idea why dont we stop harping on about how awful things are and whose fault it is (as if any of it isnt our own fault ) and try to build a concensus.

Re: Labour Success - Been there (23rd Aug 2024 - 12:53:29) Pete the previous government were streets ahead of this one . Within weeks the Labour government have told more lies than the previous government in their term. As for national debt the conservative government did a fantastic job with all that went on in the past four years. We were coming good the economy was on the way up as stated today yet the labour idiots still say it’s bad another lie. Another four years and we will be back to the 70 s bankrupt.

Re: Labour Success - Ian (23rd Aug 2024 - 17:01:48) @been there. Can you please provide a list of the specific lies that you refer to? BTW, I am a Conservative but hated the last Tory administration so I am not a natural Labour supporter but would love to see facts regarding your post

Re: Labour Success - Been there (23rd Aug 2024 - 19:33:30) Ian you only have to look at their manifesto and compare it to what they are doing. Have mentioned one but to many to list pensioners fuel allowances they said no way would they touch them. They would do something a bout the boats but that’s gone out the window. And if take a good look at what’s going on with taxes and wages and caving in to the unions it’s not a good picture they lied through their teeth.

Re: Labour Success - Alan (23rd Aug 2024 - 19:44:38) Taken from X "Keir Starmer “we’ll freeze those energy bills going forward” “Under a Labour Government we would allow prices to go up Ella” When the man is on record so many times stating what he is going to do, then within weeks does the opposite - the trust is gone. How can anyone ever believe a single word Keir Starmer ever says again?"

Re: Labour Success - Jim (23rd Aug 2024 - 19:57:46) @been there says "As for national debt the conservative government did a fantastic job with all that went on in the past four years." Just as a matter of fact, the conservatives in 2020 inherited a national debt of £1.835 bn in real terms and grew it to £2.296 bn in real terms. (source: www.statista.com/)

Re: Labour Success - Sam (23rd Aug 2024 - 21:05:00) Just got back from holidays and the locals in the foreign country (on 3 separate occasions/people/unrelated groups) jokingly refer to England as “Mordor” i.e the s***hole from JRR Tolkiens fictional world. When the rest of the world considers your country to be an absolute backward dump and lost cause then surely we should attempt to understand why? rather than comforting ourselves with tails from the empire. Laughing stock, change will only happen with acceptance, labour is a marginal improvement on the lies of the selfservatives but we can’t improve unless we recognise we have made a huge mistake lead by utter lies

Re: Labour Success - Ian (23rd Aug 2024 - 22:40:21) @ been there, hardly a lengthy list! You clearly state that in weeks Labour have told more lies than the Tories did in their last term. Please quantify….or were you just exaggerating or telling porkies?

Re: Labour Success - Sue (24th Aug 2024 - 08:21:51) @ - Sam (23rd Aug 2024 - 21:05:00) If this country is indeed quite so bad: 1) No one is forcing you to stay here. 2) Why do millions of illegal immigrants risk a dangerous expensive crossing from La vie belle France? Might this country be particularly attractive for illegal opportunistic immigrants? Might one of the reasons for the state of this country is because of the immigration situation?

Re: Labour Success - Been there (24th Aug 2024 - 10:56:02) Ian it’s not me telling porkies it’s the Labour government, you only have to open a news paper or listen to the news every day and don’t say it’s all made up even if only half of it was true it’s still terrible. Not going to argue with you because you have your opinion I have mine so let’s see in four years the outcome. That’s if we are still here and not frozen to death. Unfortunately the conservatives are in a mess going totally off course not a single one capable of running the party and winning back trust. Dare I say bring back Boris .

Re: Labour Success - Ian (24th Aug 2024 - 16:24:34) @been there. Sorry to press you on this but you state “Within weeks the Labour government have told more lies than the previous government in their term’” This is a big claim, surely you are able to substantiate with a list of these lies? Otherwise you’re as bad as the politicians.

Re: Labour Success - Truth (24th Aug 2024 - 18:49:36) @Ian, not so much a 'lie' as the Starmtroopers will come for me, but in terms of 'delusions': That we live in a democracy That we have free will That we have freedom of speech Probably the 3 most important 'delusions' currently in the UK.

Re: Labour Success - Mary (25th Aug 2024 - 09:54:54) Good morning all, Could I possible ask what would you do if you were in power? with the broken country as it is? The Tory govemeent left this country in a very bad way, spending all that money on the Rwanda and spent all the money with there chums in the pandemic, which had to be thrown away. Councils having there budgets cut, so much that they had to cut so many things ( I know i work for one) I could quote so many more, but I don't want to waste this sunny day! butI bet many of you would find this OK? Give this goverment a chance, Enjoy your Sunday. Mary

Re: Labour Success - Pensioner (25th Aug 2024 - 11:03:07) Well Mary think you’re a bit off course. The previous government did the best in the pandemic far better than the EU . And as for deporting Illegal emigrants at least they were trying to do something and stopping the boats this lot aren’t doing anything just sitting on their ass . And the country wasn’t in a bad way it was coming good as the economy figures show as of this week. The labour lot are telling the opposite another miss leading fact . As for local government they need a big shake up wasting money all over the place and yes I should know family members working for local government. We will see in a few years time if they have stopped the boats deported illegal immigrants and curbed the benefits system. Could go on with loads more but as you say it’s a nice day we won’t get many more of these in the next four years.

Re: Labour Success - Mary (25th Aug 2024 - 11:54:29) Afternoon, Yes the Torys did a fantastic job, NOT Partying do all the things they told us not to, and I said giving big contracts there friends at way over the cost, not giving the doctors and nurses the recognition, well part from the clapping :-) while the were working 20 hour shifts, i will say it again the Torys were parting in number 10 Can i also ask you a question, if you were in country where your family was under constent threat of be killed, you wife and daughters were being raped, would you not move? Have a good afternoon. Mary

Re: Labour Success - Pensioner (25th Aug 2024 - 14:47:54) Mary they were all doing it or did you miss our future prime minister supping it up when he thought he was safe. I will say it again we were the best in the pandemic way ahead of the EU ok there were mistakes that’s part of making quick decisions to save our nation. As for the migrants have you seen that 95% on the boats are young males. Agree it’s terrible in war torn countries but why do they come through free countries and pay thousands to traffickers to cross over to this country when they are in France a much bigger country and according to many a much better country than ours. As said wait and see as we did before when mr Blair was in charge that ended in tears completely bankrupt. The start of this government not looking good first few weeks and back tracking on most of their manifesto. Time will tell.

Re: Labour Success - Truth (25th Aug 2024 - 17:31:17) Mary, it's a waste of time looking backwards right now. Our socialist overlords are deflecting by talking about what they were left with (most of which is disputed). What we need is a future. And there is zero talk from our current administration about any positive future for this country and its people.

Re: Labour Success - er (25th Aug 2024 - 20:20:15) Mary, I wonder, would I personally flee that terrible unnamed place, where hypothetical families are in constant fear of being killed and my daughters are being raped? (I assume this is France we are talking about😂) but more to the point would I flee without them in a fast boat predominately full of other men to come and live rent free in a nice hotel by the seaside in England with a free bicycle and travel pass and phone and my dietary needs catered for by the chef and you name it and would I spend many months there promenading the esplanade while this was presumably still happening to my hypothetical family back across the seas. Hopefully, No! I'd like to think one of us is being a little naive and that it's not me, but go on convince me otherwise, I'm interested!

Re: Labour Success - Pensioner (26th Aug 2024 - 10:04:03) Spot on er . We pay the French millions to stop the boats leaving their shores but they just stand and wave them off . We are being taken for a ride this idiot government is as bad no idea how to run a country. What government would take money from pensioners and give it to the over payed train drivers and civil servants answer LABOUR.

Re: Labour Success - Sam (26th Aug 2024 - 17:14:43) Good to see some truth finally, it’s going to get worse before it gets better, and the country is broke.. those lower in IQ will blame a party, those higher will understand that if there is a black hole in the economy then telling the hard truth is the right answer. 20 years apparently we are behind, Brexit the main trigger yet nobody is allowed to talk about it. On that basis I don’t think any of you should be talking about the recent election either… it’s done, country voted, liars out, move on and let’s get ready to pay the tax required for what we want and need. If you don’t like it, then call a referendum

Re: Labour Success - Editor (26th Aug 2024 - 18:31:44) Sam - fact check, see forbesindia.com/article/explainers/top-10-largest-economies-in-the-world/86159/1# If I read this right, it puts the UK as #6 in the World. So not 20 years behind - where did you get that figure from ?

Re: Labour Success - Jak (27th Aug 2024 - 09:50:40) Sam, You say those with a lower IQ blame a party. So that puts Starmer, Reeves and the rest of the government in the lower IQ bracket. No wonder your friends from abroad think UK is a dump, no doubt they are all pro the Franco/German empire. As for leaving the afore’mentioned empire being a factor in the countries woes, total rubbish.

Re: Labour Success - Pensioner (27th Aug 2024 - 10:06:30) Well Sam looks like your post is a load of rubbish as usual. Brexit has done us a lot of good made us stand on our own feet and put us above the French as was predicted. You should be a Labour M P they are so good at telling porkies and distorting the truth.

Re: Labour Success - Sam (27th Aug 2024 - 13:04:12) The French don’t wait to be seen by a medical professional, and the system they get seen in is one of the world’s best. On top of that is actually a far nicer country full stop, so I dunno what you’re bringing that example up for. French citizens have a way better life than we do here. Probably best pick a comparison that is equal, like UK v Albania… or maybe UK v North Korea etc

Re: Labour Success - Joe (27th Aug 2024 - 13:08:44) Pensioner Brexit hasn't done a lot for us at all. The average Briton was nearly £2000 worse off in 2023 as a result of Brexit. There are nearly 2 million fewer jobs in the UK as a result of Brexit. There are now new costs to customs declarations and licenses to export goods. Britons will have to apply for a visa waiver further increasing wait times at the borders. Reports have come to the conclusion that our economy has grown slower as a direct result of Brexit, not Covid, the Ukraine invasion and other shocks since 2020. So Pensioner, next time you say Brexit has done a lot for us, tell us how it has done a lot for us because from a 20-something year old perspective Brexit has totally done us over thanks to the older generation who voted for it and the lies from right during the vote.

Re: Labour Success - M (27th Aug 2024 - 14:57:24) @Sam 'far nicer country full stop, so I dunno what you’re bringing that example up for. French citizens have a way better life than we do here' etc. So why do you believe all the migrants are running to flee France for the UK if its that wonderful? Answers on a postcard.

Re: Labour Success - Pensioner (27th Aug 2024 - 16:00:12) Thinking the same M . Sam and Joe you must be living in a different country. As the statics from the editor showed we are above France and not far behind India and that’s since brexit and a pandemic and helping other countries less fortunate than us . France is a much bigger country than us so it’s probably got a lot more room nicer to live in we are getting so overcrowded it’s becoming difficult to find a quiet spot. Don’t know where joe gets his information from but you only have to go out and see the wealth on the roads venture into a pub and see people spending money like it’s gone out of fashion big cars in the park £50-100,000 worth this country is doing good open your eyes. But it won’t last so if I were you I’d go and live in a EU country because in four years time we will be bankrupt.

Re: Labour Success - Ian (27th Aug 2024 - 16:20:26) No doubt pensioner would be on the Titanic as it went down proclaiming it’s the safest and best ship on the seas! The blind nationalism of some brexiteers just astonishes me, especially as they so often whinge about lies but seem so ignorant to the lies peddled out by the Brexit campaign.

Re: Labour Success - Joe (27th Aug 2024 - 17:00:14) M do you not think it has something to do with the lies being peddled by these organised criminal gangs who are known to violate human rights and international law. Pensioner, everything I said was said in an official report about the United Kingdom commissioned by the government. A simple Google search will bring it up. You say our country is doing well yet poor families have fallen deeper into poverty, 2.9 MILLION children were in deep poverty that's more than 600,000 more than in 2010/2011. 44% of children in lone parent families are in poverty. - Official gov source The UK economy is £140 billion smaller because of Brexit - Official gov source The report finds that the economic damage is going to get worse with more than £300 billion set to be wiped off the value of the UK's economy by 2035. - Official gov source Household incomes have fallen since 2020 - Official gov source And more Pensioner, if you choose to believe facts then well done but if you don't then that your own problem no-one else's. Stop peddling your lies and misinformation.

Re: Labour Success - Pensioner (27th Aug 2024 - 18:55:35) You are such a laugh Ian talk about blind brexiters boot on the other foot me think’s. Yes the Titanic was a magnificent piece of design and engineering by this nation pity the captain wasn’t up to the job.Suppose you will dismiss all the fantastic designers and engineers that developed all of our armaments in the war to defend and beat Germany. And suppose Concorde was all French ha ha . This nation of ours on this tiny island produce a fantastic amount of good things. What makes me very sad is the young people that run the country down they seem not to be proud like other people of their country’s it seems there are a lot people that think it’s a sin to be patriotic. My children, my grandchildren, have all said they are much better off know that there isn’t so much red tape from Brussels and everything was heading in the right way . And none of them went to university the great grandchildren are doing fantastic in school so it’s not all bad. But unfortunately we are in for a downturn things will go downhill with this government it’s starting already with the unions taking over it should not be like that we didn’t vote for union rule it will all end in tears. Anyway enjoy it while you.can believe me it won’t last long.

Re: Labour Success - Ian (27th Aug 2024 - 21:01:42) @pensioner,, to pick up your point, Concorde was a product of cooperation between France and Britain, a feat that could not be afforded by one nation alone. The Allies of the Second World War was a cooperation, without our allies we would not have come through victorious, we would have had to negotiate a peace that would have empowered the Nazis. Times have changed, we can pretend, waive the flag and sing jingoistic songs but without cooperation and collaboration we will struggle in this world of developing superpowers.

Re: Labour Success - Susie (28th Aug 2024 - 07:21:51) Sam You are putting out misinformation. As Editor asked previously and you still haven't replied,where did you get your information from?

Re: Labour Success - M (28th Aug 2024 - 07:50:41) Well what a load of bull from Starmer yesterday. For all the Labour luvvies i assume you know whats coming! He wants your money never mind the manifesto. France is certainly looking very attractive nowadays, although healthcare isn't free as Sam seems to think.

Re: Labour Success - Joe (28th Aug 2024 - 08:18:05) Pensioner, do not judge wealth by the cars people drive, a lot of the cars driven around now are on 4 year leases, whereby one does not own the car at all, a deposit is paid, which people borrow on their credit cards, then monthly fees for a set amount of years , probably 4 years, after which ownership of the car reverts to the car company unless you pay off the balance on the car which most people choose not to do, they then trade the older car in, and start over again with another new car. The average amount of debt not including mortgages per person is now about 40k, very few people have any savings and there is no stigma to bankruptcy.

Re: Labour Success - Pensioner (28th Aug 2024 - 08:53:23) Ian yes you are quite right we do need to work with other countries but NOT be ruled by them. Yes of course we didn’t do everything on our own but this country through the ages have produced an enormous amount of technology to the world. My point is having travelled the world people in their countries are very proud of their country take France they a fiercely proud of their country even though they are part of the EU as are all the others. But not once have you or the other denounces of this great country of ours said they are proud of our country. Yes have a go at the idiots that come into power and make a complete hash of it but be proud of your country as others are. It’s quite obvious that some on this thread are young and brain washed and haven’t yet got the experience and wisdom to see what is unfolding but we all had to learn the hard way. The editor’s post about the top 10 countries very interesting we seem to be holding our own with the EU and the world much to Sam’s amazement. Let’s be proud of this wonderful country of ours and work together and try to make it as good as we can.

Re: Labour Success - Ricardo (28th Aug 2024 - 09:47:50) The whole system needs to be completely overhauled and as per the headlines make work pay. How ridiculous is a system that pays additional monies to welfare recipients if they have several children by different fathers as they might incur additional travel expenses. I do feel for the pensioners as we head into the winter months and energy prices are rising and fuel allowances may be restricted. The labour rolled over to end the strikes and now have an unfunded hole in their finances. Now we have train drivers working 35 hours a week on circa £80k and pensioners on the breadline! Labour are still a Union run political party and clearly are showing their true colours again.

Re: Labour Success - Truth (28th Aug 2024 - 10:18:50) I think - and hope - that the main outcome of a Starmer government will be a more patriotic Britain that takes pride in putting itself first. But Labour won't achieve that, nor will they try. They will grid tax-payers down, put anything other than Britain first, destroy our economy and inevitably unite us by giving us common ground. It's already happening, and other hard socialist governments across Europe are seeing this emerging too. What a pity that people who said 'anyone but Tories' didn't understand what having a socialist government actually meant - and you were warned. There is absolutely nothing wrong with being patriotic.

Re: Labour Success - Jim (28th Aug 2024 - 15:17:59) @ Truth - Perhaps you should start being patriotic and stop your poisonous posts that undermine our country and its freely elected government.

Re: Labour Success - Sally G (28th Aug 2024 - 20:12:58) This is what’s wrong in this country, reimbursement for the lazy and incompetent. The useless seem to be able to claim for anything and everything and the pensioners pay the price for the loose ladies and lazy fathers of today.

Re: Labour Success - Mr (28th Aug 2024 - 21:37:40) Well it seems the Labour Party have very quickly turned into the old labour. Giving the unions an open book taxing the people that can’t fight back and giving it to the people that least need it . Thought labour were the party for the people supporting those that are most in need ie pensioners with no way of earning more money it should be round the other way capping public sector wages making unions toe the line no more wage rises. Rising the pension to a living level at the moment pensioners are very poor compared to the living wage. They are heading already the way the previous labour government went this time though no gold reserves to sell.

Re: Labour Success - AF (29th Aug 2024 - 02:37:46) There is no new labour or old labour. Just Labour the party that will give in to the unions, tax everyone and crash the economy.

Re: Labour Success - Truth (29th Aug 2024 - 11:51:48) @Jim - If you think criticising a government is "poisonous," maybe you need a lesson in democracy. It's (currently) a free country, we're allowed to criticise the government - it's called having a backbone. Maybe you should try it. Unless you can't handle different opinions?

Re: Labour Success - Truth (29th Aug 2024 - 12:07:01) @Mr - our situation is in fact more dire I'm afraid to say. It's important to remember that our current PM was previously Secretary of the Haldane Society of Socialist Lawyers. The objects of the Haldane Society include (and I quote directly from their Constitution, clause 2.1.2): " .. to promote reforms in the law and the legal system in the interests of the working class movement and of democratic and socialist advance within the United Kingdom." "Socialist advance within the UK" includes: Redistribution of Wealth: Advocating for progressive taxation and increased social spending to reduce economic inequality. And there you have it. We have a millionaire Knight of the Realm socialist PM intent on redistributing other people's wealth (not his, don't be silly!). Just wait and see what he means by a 'hard budget'. It won't be at all hard if you are on benefits, don't work, or have recently arrived illegally into the UK. It will be hard if you work. Very hard. For 10 years.

Re: Labour Success - Resident (29th Aug 2024 - 19:15:03) Somebody said make the country more patriotic hmm starmer said he doesnt like nationalism is that not being patriotic ?

Re: Labour Success - Sam (29th Aug 2024 - 20:17:09) 1. Most migration into Europe isn’t heading to the UK. Look it up. 2. The UK is no top of the list of countries either receiving of accepting migrants. Look it up. 3. Those migrants whom want to come to the UK are doing so for two reasons neither of them are that this is the land of milk and honey, it’s because A. They speak English (oops the empire) or B. They have family/friends here. Labour are not deliberately being hateful to its citizens, they are problems that need sorted, problems that have got worse during that 14 years of lies. Yet the dumb amongst you blame labour.. No one has yet delivered a real benefit of Brexit, the only thing ever said is “take back control etc” tell that to the fishing industry sold up the river by Boris, 30% smaller and falling apart, the biggest years of people crossing the channel was in the years after Brexit. Am not on here to be horrible, but I do get triggered by these people who have a default state of “this country is the best” thinks don’t improve by digging your head in the sand and dreaming about the empire, there has been a massive decline and you the citizens should be asking questions, instead some of you just take the default and frankly silly view of … well I voted to leave, so that was correct and all others are wrong. Brexit was an utter disaster, those whom think otherwise are like Turkeys voting for Christmas. In addition, if you can’t use a real name to post, I don’t even read it, as your a troll, a Russian bot or just not prepared to stand your name against your word.

Re: Labour Success - Susie (30th Aug 2024 - 05:14:08) Sam You have been asked more than once where did you get your information from and still not put an answer up. I can only assume you are being evasive with such an aggressive rant that demonstrates your frustrations. Your last post is particularly badly worded and it would appear an attempt at a smoke screen to hide behind. Perhaps vent your spleen elsewhere because your posts are now repetitive, unhelpful, and inaccurate. Have a lovely day, I'm now occupied and off to work !

Re: Labour Success - Concerned (30th Aug 2024 - 10:36:37) Very concerned about you Sam . Sam could be anyone any thing so stop being silly. I think you should have along lie down in a dark room you must be extremely tired. Your rants remind me of jumped up leaders of some countries. You repeat yourself all the time about how terrible this country is and how the last government completely ruined it . Are you sure you’re not Jeremy Corbyns son he would be so proud of you. Anyway roll on the Labour movement so much more to come before it all goes to pot . See there are record numbers of migrants jobless costing us £8 billion a year and their legal migrants on top of the illegal ones. Suppose Sam will have an answer to that probably it’s the last governments fault.

Re: Labour Success - Truth (30th Aug 2024 - 10:50:30) @Sam - such a condescending approach with your 'Look it up' comments. I suspect you have nothing of fact to offer. Provide your evidence, or keep quiet and let the adults discuss.

Re: Labour Success - Ian (30th Aug 2024 - 12:57:05) I think our political situation exploits an ignorant general public. Most intelligent people could see that the Brexit campaign was a pack of lies but assumed there were more intelligent people than there actually are, hence to ignorant majority won. So many people living in cloud cuckoo land. The EU needs reform but Brexit is a disaster, the last Tory government was inept and the current Labour government are devoid of any solutions. And the general public just sit on their community websites spouting BS. We’re doomed.

Re: Labour Success - Leaver (30th Aug 2024 - 14:20:57) Ian your right the EU completely in a mess reform doesn’t come near it . What idiots suggested to move parliament down the road what is once a month costing millions. The EU in its present form is completely out of touch. The original idea was good free trade not to lump all the country’s together and rule them from Brussels. We are best out of it . And if we had seen what the Labour government was going to do they would not have got in .

Re: Labour Success - Grape (3rd Sep 2024 - 09:14:24) On the same day terrorists have executed at least 6 hostages, Labour have sided with the terrorists and damaged UKs military strategy. Surprised? Labour is pacifying pro-terrorists islamists for political gains and will continue to do so. This pathetic move has damaged UK's military capability significantly more than it has damaged Israel's military capability. Same day (it's only 09:07 in the morning!), Labour will raise council tax for single occupancies, amongst other nasty cost rises. What further "good" news from our new government yet to come across for the rest of today and the rest of their term in power?

Re: Labour Success - Worried (3rd Sep 2024 - 13:22:37) This government is taking us into oblivion. If they last their term we will be more than bankrupt they are driving away all the business from this country. The last labour lot sold our gold reserves so this lot have nothing and they are fast running out of options the old pensioners only have so much so they can’t squeeze any more from them. So look out you labour voters they are coming for you.

Re: Labour Success - MJB (3rd Sep 2024 - 16:00:06) There's talk that Labour are considering cancelling the discount on single home owners council tax bill next!

Re: Labour Success - Worried (3rd Sep 2024 - 19:40:45) This Labour Party seems to be more against private enterprise than any other. They seem to want to plough more and more money into the public sector higher wages for less work WFH three and four day weeks complete ruin for our country.

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