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Cycling lane
- Harry Donald Junior (31st Aug 2024 - 11:06:08)

I was chatting with someone recently, and they mentioned hearing about a new cycle lane that’s supposed to be going through the square and extending all the way to Bordon town centre. Has anyone else heard about this? They said a council member mentioned it, but I’m curious if it’s true.

Re: Cycling lane
- Richard (31st Aug 2024 - 11:50:20)

There is already one...The Shipwrights Way...not exactly direct though!

Re: Cycling lane
- Tax payer (31st Aug 2024 - 11:53:33)

Hope that’s not true complete waste of money.

Re: Cycling lane
- Juan (31st Aug 2024 - 12:25:02)

Yes Harry I've heard about it, Its the Headley rd and onto the Passfield straight.

Re: Cycling lane
- er (31st Aug 2024 - 14:03:29)

The Headley Road is fairly narrow as it is, so I'd say it would have to be a narrow cycle lane, possibly just a painted white line, which are pretty useless to keep you safe when being overtaken at speed by people late for their very, very important appointments!

Re: Cycling lane
- PR (31st Aug 2024 - 16:44:45)

Tax Payer ....

Sad comment

Re: Cycling lane
- Charlie (31st Aug 2024 - 18:41:56)

Cyclists must be some of the most arrogant and over entitled groups in the UK today. The vast majority seem to feel they are entitled to take precedence over all other road users and often over pedestrians on footpaths as well. It’s reached a point where the infrastructure demanded for their benefit needs to be funded so they should be taxed. And no, outside of cities they do not contribute anything to a better environment.

Re: Cycling lane
- Harry Donald Junior (31st Aug 2024 - 19:48:51)

I spoke to my friend again this afternoon, and it seems they're planning to install a fixed, protected cycle lane. I'm not entirely sure how this will work, but it might involve making some roads one-way, like Midhurst Road and Headley Road. Does anyone have more details or insights to share?

Re: Cycling lane
- Scott (31st Aug 2024 - 21:04:28)

🤣🤣🤣🤣
Love this one...You're either having your leg pulled my old fruit or this is an April fools way too early or you just want to start rants about cyclists being the scurge on society...Either way its really funny, got anymore?

Ok, I'll play along....I live very near the Headley Road, does anyone know when the major through routes are going to be turned into one way systems so cyclists can pass through more efficiently....

Re: Cycling lane
- Steve (31st Aug 2024 - 21:38:39)

Hmm.
Why not ask your friend. He seems to be better informed than most!

Re: Cycling lane
- Local (31st Aug 2024 - 22:04:35)

Yea Scott makes a good laugh in these dark days awaiting our fate in the coming budget from the crazy gang. Let’s shut the square and make it pedestrian only make a change.

Re: Cycling lane
- Paul (1st Sep 2024 - 16:40:42)

Can we have motorway cycle lane two lanes please
If government have there why not afford cars be for long. maybe should be taxing cyclists to use road and pay per mile also can have sky rocket insurance and you can do more than 20mph

Re: Cycling lane
- Juan (1st Sep 2024 - 16:57:25)

Here's a thought, what about a Smoking lane for when General Secretary Starmer takes some more of our rights away!!
This could be the last you here of Juan as I'm likely to be imprisoned for speaking my mind.

Re: Cycling lane
- Paul2 (2nd Sep 2024 - 11:58:55)

@ Charlie: "Cyclists must be some of the most arrogant and over entitled groups in the UK today. The vast majority seem to feel they are entitled to take precedence over all other road users and often over pedestrians on footpaths as well. It’s reached a point where the infrastructure demanded for their benefit needs to be funded so they should be taxed. And no, outside of cities they do not contribute anything to a better environment."

1. My 12 year old son had an unidentified liquid thrown at his head while cycling with me, from a speeding car. Just for being on his bike with his dad in a cycle lane.
2. My friend was run over by a truck while cycling, he had broken legs, pelvis, ribs and arms and had open-heart surgery performed by EMS on the road. By a miracle, he survived. He was a surgeon, on his way to work.
3. A colleague at work was hit by a car and killed (practically empty country road). He was a father and husband.

None of these 'cyclists' who you hate felt any entitlement or arrogance. In fact, you've displayed your own bile and irrational hatred online and I hope the people around you are safe in your company.

Cue the usual Daily Mail level of hatred now ....

Re: Cycling lane
- Dave B (2nd Sep 2024 - 13:44:46)

Blimey Paul2, I wouldn't want to be in your circle and a cyclist!

Re: Cycling lane
- Pete (2nd Sep 2024 - 15:18:04)

Tax payer- I would use it, I currently drive 6 days a week between Liphook and Bordon and would happily use it if it existed instead.

Charlie- Bit of a generalist sweeping statement isnt it. Of course your arrogance probaly makes you assume thet you know the character of every cyclist in the country. Such a simplistic attitude.

Re: Cycling lane
- M (2nd Sep 2024 - 16:43:53)

As always there's opposing views and uneducated comments and hearsay so I thought I'd put Google to use as the original posted hadn't suppled any concrete proof of any proposals.

I don't believe there are any concrete proposals to build any cycle routes between Liphook and Bordon..... or anywhere else.
The only information that I found is this 20 year old consultation document by EHDC for a "Cycle Plan for East Hampshire".
easthants.gov.uk/sites/default/files/documents/cycle-plan-2004.pdf

I am not a cyclist, have no intention of becoming one (a car is so much drier, safer and more comfortable) and find those that do cycle on busy public roads a bit of a pain in the backside. I do, however, respect their choice and do my best to keep them safe.

In the current economic climate I can see no way that any form of long distance cycle lanes will ever be provided in and around Liphook.

The current government believe that can build 300000 house a year over the next 5 years (won't hold my breath on that one and where are these extra 300000 people that need a new house each year living now?) but they don't mention anything about providing much needed infrastructure let alone a cycle lane in rural Hampshire for 3 people to use each day.

Good luck those that think it will happen, but I think I'll keep my car thank you!

Re: Cycling lane
- Tax payer (2nd Sep 2024 - 17:06:26)

So Pete as a driver you travel headly road and you think a cycle lane on that road would be safe. Don’t think so and the cost of putting it away from the road would be enormous and just for a few cyclists. Cycle lanes should be well away from traffic they just don’t mix. Unfortunately all the money raked in by government and local government from motorists is not spent on roads if it was we would have a fantastic road system with loads of cycle lanes. But still think cyclists should be taxed and made to have insurance. Yes I know some have but not many.

Re: Cycling lane
- Joe (2nd Sep 2024 - 18:35:56)

I personally do not hate cyclists they have rights like all road users - it is when they ride 2 abreast for miles and cause tailbacks instead of possibly occasionally pulling over into a lay-by or such like, so that cars can pass safely is when I get mildly irritated.

Re: Cycling lane
- er (2nd Sep 2024 - 18:52:36)

Well it's not being put in for us, noone spends money for Liphook!

So it's being done for the new city of Bordon, the green city without a Trainline, this no doubt will tick a few boxes as they can now officially all commute to London by bike and train at Liphook😂😂😂

Would I use it?

No, not if it's just a white line by the side of the road, too lethal

Yes, if it's segregated from the road traffic, if it's continuous and not bitsy and stop start, which may be ok for the one off leisure ride but useless for daily commuting as a substitute for the car.

So let's wait and see if they can do it properly, spending millions on real infrastructure, or will it just be some white paint, or is it all just a pipe dream?

Re: Cycling lane
- Michael (3rd Sep 2024 - 17:57:43)

Great idea. Have just come back from Netherlands and we are decades behind them in terms of transport infrastructure. A good safe cycle network is the way forward, the only problem is our stone age attitudes towards anything thats not a car.

Re: Cycling lane
- D (3rd Sep 2024 - 19:55:03)

I don't believe a word of this, how many bicycles do we see between Bordon and Liphook? Or anywhere round here? At the time of the pandemic the A359 between Shoreham and Brighton was cut in half with the inner lane made into a cycle lane. It's gone now because no one used it, and the local tax payers are still paying for it. Any cycle lane is a lot of money for something that is used only on sunny days, with the people screaming how important they are reverting to their cars on rainy days and in the winter.

Re: Cycling lane
- D (3rd Sep 2024 - 21:45:29)

Michael, "stone age attitudes"? The motor car is a more recent invention than the bicycle so it could be argued it is the cyclists who have a stone age attitude. The bicycle is a step back not a step forward. Given the horror stories we read on this website it would appear the bicycle is the most dangerous mode of transport ever.

Re: Cycling lane
- Michael (5th Sep 2024 - 19:16:46)

D - my point exactly.

Re: Cycling lane
- danny (8th Sep 2024 - 10:09:38)

Cycle lane through the square HA HA Good luck!

Re: Cycling lane
- PR (8th Sep 2024 - 14:43:13)

Most of us had bikes as children and beyond.

Perhaps the critics of cyclists should think back a little.

Re: Cycling lane
- Harry Donald Junior (8th Sep 2024 - 15:45:00)

Well Well Well... A bit of obvious fake news and everyone gets angry whether it's about cyclists themselves or road tax whatever it may be, how about we all just get along... It's not difficult!

Re: Cycling lane
- Scott (8th Sep 2024 - 16:57:21)

Well well well done Harry🤣🤣🤣 Or whatever your real name is🥸 Your thinly veiled disguise at setting up a roose nearly had us all in a foolish tizzy....Not most of us I hasten to add.

As a side note, maybe if people were less obvious about their use of fake news and trying to insight conflict and disagreement we might all get along much more nicely, as it appears that is all you were after in the first place....Smile at people, say hi, have a chat about the weather with people,post about nice things and its amazing the responses you'll get.

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