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Finally sense by the courts
- Sarah (16th Apr 2025 - 11:47:15)

Great to see that common sense has finally prevailed over the confused in society. A woman can only be a woman if she has all the working female parts and a man is only a man if he has the working male parts just as we taught in biology classes when we were in school.
It’s the end of the woke era and a return to good old fashioned values and family structure. Our poor young people have had so much rubbish they were being exposed to over the last few years.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- AR (16th Apr 2025 - 13:49:09)

Couldn't agree more. Common sense.Thank you to those Scottish ladies for sticking their necks on the line.

Hopefully it is the start of the world pulling itself back from all the insanity.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- k (16th Apr 2025 - 14:28:51)

BUT how much has it cost to the Tax payers - with all the Court costs etc to have this decision!

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Caroline (16th Apr 2025 - 15:05:39)

How does it affect your lives? Why do you care? Is it a massive problem to you all on a daily basis if someone wants to identify differently?

Find it quite bizarre in this day and age the things people dedicate so much time to rallying against that in all likelihood will never have a bearing on your life.

Maybe worry about climate change/ war/ poverty, famine.....?

Personally I'm of the view, if what someone does causes no harm to another, what business is it of mine how they live their life?

{and here we go on the comments...!}

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Rupert (16th Apr 2025 - 15:15:04)

Hopefully this gives back power to the parents as at present if a child advises their school that they want to be gender neutral or a girl wants to be known as a boy the school doesn’t have to advise the parents. There’s been a few cases where 8 year girls have declared themselves as boys and other girls no longer want to be considered a female.
How are parents supposed to navigate any time of these situations. It’s great that the court has provided the clear direction of what a female is and by default what a man is. The Scottish WI have been able to provide us all with a clear moral direction and for that society as a whole should be thankful and joyful.
A Christian country should have Christian values.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- D (16th Apr 2025 - 15:39:36)

Worst thing if all......we need the supreme court to tell us what a woman is. I could have come to that conclusion for free.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- AR (16th Apr 2025 - 15:46:31)

k
This was brought against the Scottish government by the campaign group For Women Scotland. Well done to these ladies. One would assume the Scottish government will pick up the tab. A great slap on the face to the SNP.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- John (16th Apr 2025 - 15:54:33)

The world is gone truly mad with everyone now being afraid of the WOKES in this world. Thank god the court has now confirmed you’re either a woman or a man and if you were born a woman then you’ll always be a woman and if you were born a man you’ll always be a man. Is the world we live in gone truly this mad when a court has to advise of all of this because the local authorities are afraid to!

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Caroline (16th Apr 2025 - 16:39:58)

Once again, would be really intrigued to know from every single person on this thread claiming what a triumph this is how this issue ACTUALLY affects you in any way. Are you plagued by trans women on a daily basis knocking on your door and trying to recruit you?! Can you not walk into a supermarket for the hordes of trans woman buying up all the female razors and blocking the feminine product aisles?!

And to me, Christian values are kindness, respect and generosity, which continually seem to be missing from this Forum sadly.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- D (16th Apr 2025 - 18:48:55)

Caroline, read Moses.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- D (16th Apr 2025 - 19:37:34)

.....or Genesis, God created man and woman, no mention of anything else.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Dave (16th Apr 2025 - 21:59:29)

According to the Bible in the Book of Genesis, God created man and woman as the first human beings. He formed Adam from the dust of the ground and breathed life into him. Seeing that Adam was alone, God made Eve from one of Adam’s ribs to be his companion. This creation established two distinct genders—male and female—as part of God’s design for humanity. The text emphasises that both were made in God’s image, with equal value and purpose. It does not mention the creation of other genders, focusing solely on this binary framework within the context of its time.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Joe (16th Apr 2025 - 22:42:57)

Ok Caroline the issue is a very real one in everyday life - because anyone can identify as a trans woman there have been multiple reports of criminals asking to go to a women’s prison because they are a “ female” when in fact it is a ruse to enter the prison fir purposes of rape. The issues are also in sport whereby a man declares they are a woman in order to win in the women’s events. These are just two examples of fakery for personal gain. I have no issue with those men who genuinely feel they are women and cause no problems. Women should feel safe in designated women only spaces such as female changing rooms. A man faking gender change is obviously a risk and uses gender identity to gain entry to those places.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- D (17th Apr 2025 - 00:33:47)

You mention "Christian values", Caroline. The Christian bible refers to man and woman, male and female. Nowhere in the bible is any support or approval given for any deviation from male and female. Though given the way the world is going, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before it is re-written to fit in with today's weirdo woke culture.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Caroline (17th Apr 2025 - 07:18:55)

D - the Bible also mentions that a man took two of each animal on a boat to escape a flood, a man being eaten by a giant fish and a man parting the seas on command. So forgive me if I don’t take it all as read.

Leaving this thread now. It’s too depressing to read the bigoted values.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- AR (17th Apr 2025 - 07:41:46)

@ Caroline
Just because one isn't affected by something doesn't mean somebody else isn't. Surely a Christian would want everyone to feel safe.
What we have all known has now been defined in law. Crazy this had to happen.
Biological males should stay away from biological females rest rooms, and sports. Children tend to be with their mothers in these places.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Local resident (17th Apr 2025 - 08:39:22)

I’d love to know how many folk claiming “Christian values” etc actually go to church.

Also as a biological cis male, if I have to take my almost pre-teen daughter to the toilet then depending on the situation I’d be far more comfortable taking her into the ladies than the gents and I’ve never had an issue doing so. When my kids were babies if there were no changing facilities other than in the ladies I would also go in there to use them as why shouldn’t a father be able to change their kids.

All this whataboutery is nuts. The fact is in practically all cases someone being trans is just trying to get on with their own life in a way that helps them cope and has no impact on yours. If you don’t like it then don’t be trans (in the same way that if you don’t like same-sex marriage then don’t marry someone of the same sex - it literally has no bearing on your own life). If you’re uncomfortable then that’s surely your issue not theirs almost all of the time.

The cases highlighted are such a tiny proportion - there are far far more predatory conventional men and other criminals that you should be more concerned about.

Why can’t people just be kind?

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- D (17th Apr 2025 - 09:32:22)

Local resident, "predatory men"? There are just as many female sex offenders and child killers as men, possibly more.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Local resident (17th Apr 2025 - 10:17:05)

There you go, as you say there are far more other categories of wronguns to be concerned about that you’re more likely to come across than the miniscule number of trans ones. But I guess they’re less easy to single out.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Scott (17th Apr 2025 - 11:02:07)

Once again a few deep seated anxieties and frustrations by some that are intollerent of anyone but their own ilk is really where this sits. The regular initials and psuedonyms will chime in here as they've reached dead ends on other topics!
Treading very carefully here but if you are not a believer in The Bible and that version of how the worlds and man and woman were created
and you take a more creationist view, biological diversity has been evolving for millions of years on this planet. Even our own species has had several genetic and practical twists and turns throughout the continents. With medical science improvements and an individuals want to change facial appearance, body insecurities or even the ability to become pregnant or change gender is now widely possible. The next evolution of humans is all in the hands of white coats in labs and is here to stay.
Live and let live I say, Not wokeism. Start throwing stones in a particular direction then how long before someone opposed to you starts throwing them back.
Where does that get us!?

Have a lovely day Liphookians🌞☺️

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- D (17th Apr 2025 - 11:03:21)

Local resident, my one and only point on this thread is that there are only two genders.

I'm sure these days that statement makes me a right wing homophobic bigot, possibly also a fanatical religious extremist for mentioning the bible.

Chicks with dicks and todger choppers don't bother me at all, what does bother me is attempts to legalise us all into having to accept this as the norm. It isn't.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Local resident (17th Apr 2025 - 14:27:13)

D, it still doesn’t seem to affect you in any way so what is the massive issue? Let people live their lives how they want to if it doesn’t affect you.

Quite frankly it’s hardly different to someone wanting to change their hair colour to bright blue. Not one of the standard available hair colours, but it doesn’t make a difference to anyone else. In fact having typed that previous line it’s probably more like someone going from one naturally available colour to another “normal” hair colour.

No need to answer, you’ve described your own biases and personality perfectly.

The problem with the biases people show is that completely normal woman are being judged unfairly too just because they’re a bit taller than average or have harder features or whatever. Not to mention those who have hormone imbalances or other differences since birth.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- D (17th Apr 2025 - 18:39:58)

Don't really understand your last paragraph, Local resident. Personally, I'm always happy to respectfully agree to differ, I never think it necessary to accuse people of bias and bigotry when their opinion differs from mine. Just as society respects transgenders, lesbians and homosexuals, society must also accept some people find such things utterly abhorrent. Having a difference of opinion doesn't make one a biased bigot.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Dave (17th Apr 2025 - 21:52:20)

The problems these people have caused in local communities is disturbing to say the least. Schools have had to change their PE clothing changing arrangements at school as there’s girls who think they’re boys and want to change in their changing rooms and girls who think they’re are not female or male! The world is gone nuts!
Parents allowing this kind of disgusting behaviour to happen need a serious talking to. Maybe these kids would be better off in care where the local authorities can straighten them out (in more ways than one) as the parents and schools are afraid to touch them.

Re: Finally sense by the courts
- Barbara Easton (18th Apr 2025 - 15:28:21)

D, I am interested where you heard or found your statistic that there are just as many women sex abusers and child killers as there are men? I find this claim at odds with what I read in the news. I have no issue with people ( trans or otherwise ) trying to lead their lives peacefully, but to merely SAY you are identifying as a different gender is not enough.

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