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White Hart House
- Dave Wilson (16th Jun 2007 11:58:44)
Please does anyone have any information on White Hart House, Liphook, my friend was born there in 1936. he was later placed in a home and is now trying to find out about himself. If a photo is available it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks very much Dave
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Re: White Hart House
- Heather (18th Jun 2007 02:28:24)
Sorry I can't help you, but I hope someone else can. If you haven't already done so it might be worth getting in touch with the Liphook and Bramshott Preservation Society who hold local history records.
Being curious, as I have never heard of White Hart House I looked it up in the 1901 Census. (Public record Office ref RG13/1094 pages 13 and 14 )
It was in New Town next to a butchers and near to the Railway Hotel which is listed further down the census page.
As there has been discussion about Newtown on this website recently, I thought people interested in local history might like to know that 106 years ago, the Newtown area was quite cosmopolitan.
Of the 15 families listed on just the two pages I looked at, only 9 of the 58 people were born in the Parish of Bramshott and Liphook! These 9 were all offspring, not heads of households.
There were people from all over, including Devon, Kent, IOW, Oxfordshire, Scotland, London, Cambridgeshire, Berkshire, Russia (see below) and Halifax Nova Scotia (This was Nellie Redhouse, the 24 yr old daughter of the proprietor of the Railway Hotel. She worked as a barmaid).
This would not be so surprising today, but for those days was quite remarkable in a small rural village. I guess the railway had something to do with it.
There were 4 separate families living in White Hart House, so it must have been reasonably large. All four heads of households were working on their "own account", ie self employed.
Some of the handwriting in the census returns is quite hard to read and has also been partly obliterated by marks made by the enumerators as they counted. However to give a flavour of the place, I have listed below, to the best of my deciphering, the inhabitants of the White Hart House.
Family 1:
Frank Phillips, a 63 yr old widower who was a hire carter born in Godshill, IOW; his daughter Anna B, age 28, unmarried, a dressmaker, born Brading IOW; son Samuel age 26 unmarried, a manager of (I think) coal stores, born Brading IOW, and a boarder Bernard Weinstein age 36, born in Moscow, Russia, who was a jeweller.
Family 2:
Charles Provis age 40 from Emsworth, an electrical cycle maker; his wife Emma M, 37, born in Pimlico London, plus their two children, Eva M, 4, born in Emsworth and William Ch. age 1 born in Liphook
Family 3:
Charles Taylor age 60, a market gardener born in Hook Norton, Oxfordshire, and his wife Lucy 60, from Cuckfield Sussex.
Family 4:
William Bridgman age 46, a hotel proprietor born at Witney, Oxfordhire, his wife Sophia 29, from Pulborough, W Sussex and their 3 yr old daughter Winifred W, born in Henley on Thames.
Once again sorry I can't help in your quest for info from before WW2 but I wish you luck.
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Re: White Hart House
- Eneida (18th Jun 2007 08:47:22)
Sadly, I can't help Mr Wilson at all...but I just wanted to congratulate Heather on taking the trouble to write such an interesting and well researched post!!!
Eneida
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Re: White Hart House
- Irene Ellis (18th Jun 2007 12:26:36)
Hi Dave
My Mum was born in Liphook in 1911 and has lived here all her life. I think she could tell you all
about the people that lived in White Hart House but you did not give your friends name. I can remember the house and knew some of the people.
Irene Ellis
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Re: White Hart House
- Dave Wilson (27th Jun 2007 17:07:38)
Thank you for the replies to my request, Heather it is amazing how much time people are still prepared to give to help others, thank you.
Irene, my friends name is Peter, the son of John Thomas Plant a painter and Lara Ellen ( formerly Enticknap) who was born in 1936, by November 1937 they were living in Birch cottage Coombe Harting where his brother was born. He had an older brother Arthur and an older sister Georgina. If your mother can remember anything of them it will be brilliant, Peter has lost touch with the rest of his family, Arthur and Georgina.
Thanks again Dave Wilson
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Re: White Hart House
- Irene Ellis (1st Jul 2007 20:36:04)
Hi Dave
White Hart House started life as a pub but when it closed 4 families lived there one of them being I believe the family of Peter. His mother died a couple of years ago but there is still a few of her children around. I have told them about Peter. If you want to know more please give me a ring on 01428 723823. Irene
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Re: White Hart House
- Gary Kinch (30th Oct 2011 12:56:46)
Hi, I may be able to help as I lived there with my grandfather, Charlie Kinch, also Robin, Ken, Connie, Neville and Hazel Kinch. The families living along with us were Charlie Enticknap, Dougie Plant ( I think) also Lorna Plant.
There was Bucks bakery at the back of the house, also Mrs Booker had a paper and sweet shop. I remember a family called The Kinshots.
I understood there were a vast amount of tunnels under ground used by smugglers.
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Re: White Hart House
- Maureen (31st Oct 2011 17:33:25)
My father was brought up in Newtown Road and knows of White Hart House. I am aware that he has relatives by the name of Plant and Enticknap.
Please contact if you would like any other information.
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Re: White Hart House
- Mick (1st Nov 2011 01:09:00)
Hi Maureen.
I worked with Tony Enticnap in the mid 70's and Tony was my best man at my wedding. He had 2 or 3 brothers whom I belive still reside in the area.....
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Re: White Hart House
- Russell Kirk (17th Apr 2024 14:36:59)
Interesting reading this thread. My Great Grandad was John Redhouse who was the first landlord of the Railway Hotel, in the back of my mind he was at the White Hart too but I'm not 100% sure. Johns grandaughter (my mother) is still alive and still lives in Liphook. Redhouse Mews behind the old pub was named after him.
Im not 100% sure who Nellie Redhouse was though, I have a number of 2nd and 3rd cousins still living in Liphook.
russ.kirk@sky.com if any one wants to chat
Thank you
Russ
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